Obamacare Waivers

[The West Sider]

Fair.

 

http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/17/nearly-20-percent-of-new-obamacare-waivers-are-gourmet-restaurants-nightclubs-fancy-hotels-in-nancy-pelosi’s-district/

[Guest Guest]

Fair.

 

http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/17/nearly-20-percent-of-new-obamacare-waivers-are-gourmet-restaurants-nightclubs-fancy-hotels-in-nancy-pelosi’s-district/

No content. Just a posted link. Not even gonna look at it. If you wanna be a voice, then you should have a voice.

[Guest Guest]

No content. Just a posted link. Not even gonna look at it. If you wanna be a voice, then you should have a voice.

He has a voice. It's called the dailycaller.com, founded by Tucker Carlson, and Neil Patel, former chief policy adviser to Vice President Cheney. He is being fed what to think.

[Guest Guest]

fair http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/pelosi-district-health-care-waivers

[Logical Attacks]

Basically, when a company that represents multiple companies is located in one central place, and they place a claim on behalf of all those companies, it will count towards "that district". Hence the HOLY CRAP THEY ALL COME FROM ONE AREA!?!!?!? Because mini-med plans are primarily overseen by few companies.

[beowulf]

If Obamacare is such a great thing, why would these companies in her district (or any district) ask for vouchers?

[Logical Attacks]

If Obamacare is such a great thing, why would these companies in her district (or any district) ask for vouchers?

 

 

You mean ask for waivers?

 

Basically it works like this: Obamacare sets up exchanges in which people are grouped together to purchase insurance. Insurance companies use large pools of people to spread the risk around (costs) so that in a group of 1000 people, let's say only 20 or so have large claims in a year, the rest of the people have effectively paid for that with premiums etc.

 

The problem is these state run exchanges haven't been fully implemented yet, it's logistically a large task to do, states are being given assistance to do it, but it's not done yet. Which is "okay" as they have a couple years to do so according to the law. The problem is parts of the law have gone into effect, which places more stringent guidelines on insurance plans offered by companies. Essentially insurance plans have to put a larger percentage of premiums paid in, into actual care.

 

Now for the waivers, these companies have what are termed "Mini-Med" plans. These plans are sort of crappy, but ultimately better than nothing. A McDonald's worker can put 14$ a week, or 32$ a week into the insurance plan. They then can get paid out a maximum of either 2000, or 10000 for medical bills in the year. Any single hospital stay would basically eat a mini-med plan up instantly. But still, for 728/1664$ it's an okay investment, as long as nothing catastrophic happens it will get you some medical coverage.

 

Since the state run exchanges are not set up, so that these people can buy into real insurance plans, giving waivers so they have some form of (albeit inadequate) coverage is the best fit for now. But waivers will disappear as the exchanges are set up.

[Guest Guest]

You mean ask for waivers?

 

Basically it works like this: Obamacare sets up exchanges in which people are grouped together to purchase insurance. Insurance companies use large pools of people to spread the risk around (costs) so that in a group of 1000 people, let's say only 20 or so have large claims in a year, the rest of the people have effectively paid for that with premiums etc.

 

The problem is these state run exchanges haven't been fully implemented yet, it's logistically a large task to do, states are being given assistance to do it, but it's not done yet. Which is "okay" as they have a couple years to do so according to the law. The problem is parts of the law have gone into effect, which places more stringent guidelines on insurance plans offered by companies. Essentially insurance plans have to put a larger percentage of premiums paid in, into actual care.

 

Now for the waivers, these companies have what are termed "Mini-Med" plans. These plans are sort of crappy, but ultimately better than nothing. A McDonald's worker can put 14$ a week, or 32$ a week into the insurance plan. They then can get paid out a maximum of either 2000, or 10000 for medical bills in the year. Any single hospital stay would basically eat a mini-med plan up instantly. But still, for 728/1664$ it's an okay investment, as long as nothing catastrophic happens it will get you some medical coverage.

 

Since the state run exchanges are not set up, so that these people can buy into real insurance plans, giving waivers so they have some form of (albeit inadequate) coverage is the best fit for now. But waivers will disappear as the exchanges are set up.

 

Talk about a Koolaid boy! Hahahaha. Pelosi's district has loads of waivers given. It's the crushing requirements of Obamacare that will kill businesses. Less than 100 companies have been turned down for waivers.

[Guest Guest]

You mean ask for waivers?

 

Basically it works like this: Obamacare sets up exchanges in which people are grouped together to purchase insurance. Insurance companies use large pools of people to spread the risk around (costs) so that in a group of 1000 people, let's say only 20 or so have large claims in a year, the rest of the people have effectively paid for that with premiums etc.

 

The problem is these state run exchanges haven't been fully implemented yet, it's logistically a large task to do, states are being given assistance to do it, but it's not done yet. Which is "okay" as they have a couple years to do so according to the law. The problem is parts of the law have gone into effect, which places more stringent guidelines on insurance plans offered by companies. Essentially insurance plans have to put a larger percentage of premiums paid in, into actual care.

 

Now for the waivers, these companies have what are termed "Mini-Med" plans. These plans are sort of crappy, but ultimately better than nothing. A McDonald's worker can put 14$ a week, or 32$ a week into the insurance plan. They then can get paid out a maximum of either 2000, or 10000 for medical bills in the year. Any single hospital stay would basically eat a mini-med plan up instantly. But still, for 728/1664$ it's an okay investment, as long as nothing catastrophic happens it will get you some medical coverage.

 

Since the state run exchanges are not set up, so that these people can buy into real insurance plans, giving waivers so they have some form of (albeit inadequate) coverage is the best fit for now. But waivers will disappear as the exchanges are set up.

 

 

lol..local simpleton woodchuck

[Logical Attacks]

Talk about a Koolaid boy! Hahahaha. Pelosi's district has loads of waivers given. It's the crushing requirements of Obamacare that will kill businesses. Less than 100 companies have been turned down for waivers.

 

Sigh, please point out anything factually wrong with what I posted. Then point out what you consider crushing in Obamacare.

[Guest Guest]

Sigh, please point out anything factually wrong with what I posted. Then point out what you consider crushing in Obamacare.

 

Any tax increase businesses have to suffer because of this flawed law is crushing.

 

 

Obamacare is just another term for spreading the wealth around. Taking from one and giving to another. Legalized thievery.

[Logical Attacks]

Any tax increase businesses have to suffer because of this flawed law is crushing.

 

 

Obamacare is just another term for spreading the wealth around. Taking from one and giving to another. Legalized thievery.

 

 

Oh, so you have no facts.

[Guest Guest]

Oh, so you have no facts.

 

You assume many things. You rely on too much speculation in your responses on this board.

[beowulf]

You mean ask for waivers?

 

Basically it works like this: Obamacare sets up exchanges in which people are grouped together to purchase insurance. Insurance companies use large pools of people to spread the risk around (costs) so that in a group of 1000 people, let's say only 20 or so have large claims in a year, the rest of the people have effectively paid for that with premiums etc.

 

The problem is these state run exchanges haven't been fully implemented yet, it's logistically a large task to do, states are being given assistance to do it, but it's not done yet. Which is "okay" as they have a couple years to do so according to the law. The problem is parts of the law have gone into effect, which places more stringent guidelines on insurance plans offered by companies. Essentially insurance plans have to put a larger percentage of premiums paid in, into actual care.

 

Now for the waivers, these companies have what are termed "Mini-Med" plans. These plans are sort of crappy, but ultimately better than nothing. A McDonald's worker can put 14$ a week, or 32$ a week into the insurance plan. They then can get paid out a maximum of either 2000, or 10000 for medical bills in the year. Any single hospital stay would basically eat a mini-med plan up instantly. But still, for 728/1664$ it's an okay investment, as long as nothing catastrophic happens it will get you some medical coverage.

 

Since the state run exchanges are not set up, so that these people can buy into real insurance plans, giving waivers so they have some form of (albeit inadequate) coverage is the best fit for now. But waivers will disappear as the exchanges are set up.

 

 

 

Okay, what about the teacher's union who has about half of the waivers, they arent McDonalds employees. They already have great healthcare benies and are asking for waivers so they dont have to get on board with Obamacare.

[Guest guest]

Just wonderful. Obama sics the NLRB on Boeing and Nancy gets waivers for legislation she forced down our throats. 2013 can't come soon enough.