Guest gues Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Agreed, I don't see how schools or any govt agency can keep things rolling without major changes to expenses such as pension, health insurance, salaries as the state funds have dried up... The unions just don't get it. It is time for a stop to their big pensions, benefits, etc..every one else has to take cuts..time for these state and government workers to take cuts also..and get rid of pensions..have 401k like everyone else has to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 America will not be worthy of our values until all pension and medical benefits are abolished for everyone. We should all be responsible for our own lives. Not one penny should ever be given to anyone by the government. No exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fried Egg Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Agreed, pension and health costs alone are crippling schools and then the money hawks want their pay increases as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 America will not be worthy of our values until all pension and medical benefits are abolished for everyone. We should all be responsible for our own lives. Not one penny should ever be given to anyone by the government. No exceptions. Did you sign the pledge? I, ________________________, do solemnly swear to uphold the principles of a socialism-free society and heretofore pledge my word that I shall strictly adhere to the following: I will complain about the destruction of 1st Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 1st Amendment Rights. I will complain about the destruction of my 2nd Amendment Rights in this country, while I am duly being allowed to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights by legally but brazenly brandishing unconcealed firearms in public. I will foreswear the time-honored principles of fairness, decency, and respect by screaming unintelligible platitudes regarding tyranny, Nazi-ism, and socialism at public town halls. Also. I pledge to eliminate all government intervention in my life. I will abstain from the use of and participation in any socialist goods and services including but not limited to the following: Social Security Medicare/Medicaid State Children’s Health Insurance Programs (SCHIP) Police, Fire, and Emergency Services US Postal Service Roads and Highways Air Travel (regulated by the socialist FAA) The US Railway System Public Subways and Metro Systems Public Bus and Lightrail Systems Rest Areas on Highways Sidewalks All Government-Funded Local/State Projects (e.g., see Iowa 2009 federal senate appropriations) Public Water and Sewer Services (goodbye socialist toilet, shower, dishwasher, kitchen sink, outdoor hose!) Public and State Universities and Colleges Public Primary and Secondary Schools Sesame Street Publicly Funded Anti-Drug Use Education for Children Public Museums Libraries Public Parks and Beaches State and National Parks Public Zoos Unemployment Insurance Municipal Garbage and Recycling Services Treatment at Any Hospital or Clinic That Ever Received Funding From Local, State or Federal Government (pretty much all of them) Medical Services and Medications That Were Created or Derived From Any Government Grant or Research Funding (again, pretty much all of them) Socialist Byproducts of Government Investment Such as Duct Tape and Velcro (Nazi-NASA Inventions) Use of the Internets, email, and networked computers, as the DoD's ARPANET was the basis for subsequent computer networking Foodstuffs, Meats, Produce and Crops That Were Grown With, Fed With, Raised With or That Contain Inputs From Crops Grown With Government Subsidies Clothing Made from Crops (e.g. cotton) That Were Grown With or That Contain Inputs From Government Subsidies If a veteran of the government-run socialist US military, I will forego my VA benefits and insist on paying for my own medical care I will not tour socialist government buildings like the Capitol in Washington, D.C. I pledge to never take myself, my family, or my children on a tour of the following types of socialist locations, including but not limited to: Smithsonian Museums such as the Air and Space Museum or Museum of American History The socialist Washington, Lincoln, and Jefferson Monuments The government-operated Statue of Liberty The Grand Canyon The socialist World War II and Vietnam Veterans Memorials The government-run socialist-propaganda location known as Arlington National Cemetery All other public-funded socialist sites, whether it be in my state or in Washington, DC I will urge my Member of Congress and Senators to forego their government salary and government-provided healthcare. I will oppose and condemn the government-funded and therefore socialist military of the United States of America. I will boycott the products of socialist defense contractors such as GE, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Humana, FedEx, General Motors, Honeywell, and hundreds of others that are paid by our socialist government to produce goods for our socialist army. I will protest socialist security departments such as the Pentagon, FBI, CIA, Department of Homeland Security, TSA, Department of Justice and their socialist employees. Upon reaching eligible retirement age, I will tear up my socialist Social Security checks. Upon reaching age 65, I will forego Medicare and pay for my own private health insurance until I die. SWORN ON A BIBLE AND SIGNED THIS DAY OF __________ IN THE YEAR ___. _____________ _________________________ Signed Printed Name/Town and State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Jesus Angleton Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I was told the District spent in excess of 2 million dollars on a set stairs leading to Pheasant Lane. Apparently it is a short cut for students walking to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 And don't forget the 2 million dollar diving pool, that no one uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 The combined budgets for Broome County Public School Districts is $478,495,000 million dollars a school year. Very close and soon to be a half billion dollars a school year. Based on a 180 day school year that is staggering $2,660,972.2 million dollars a day. If we base the daily figure on an 8 hour work day (wink) that is a whopping $332,622.00 thousand dollars per hour. What’s next? You guessed it. $5544.00 a minute it is costing tax payers in Broome County alone! The teachers unions are about to start a ground assault to continue and most likely this raise this ghastly level of spending. Call your local and state representatives today and tell them you support spending cuts. Remember this is not about the children it is, and always has about the teachers union and saving their bacon. Financial Statistics for Binghamton City School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $31,490,000 • Revenue from state sources: $51,050,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $9,880,000 • Total revenue: $92,420,000 Financial Statistics for Chenango Valley Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $10,721,000 • Revenue from state sources: $15,936,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $1,009,000 • Total revenue: $27,666,000 Financial Statistics for Johnson City Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $18,004,000 • Revenue from state sources: $23,261,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $2,590,000 • Total revenue: $43,855,000 Financial Statistics for Maine-Endwell Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $15,125,000 • Revenue from state sources: $22,630,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $1,249,000 • Total revenue: $39,004,000 Financial Statistics for Vestal Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $34,781,000 • Revenue from state sources: $25,649,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $1,911,000 • Total revenue: $62,341,000 Financial Statistics for Chenango Forks Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $7,771,000 • Revenue from state sources: $18,976,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $1,025,000 • Total revenue: $27,772,000 Financial Statistics for Union-Endicott Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $29,098,000 • Revenue from state sources: $33,560,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $5,287,000 • Total revenue: $67,945,000 Financial Statistics for Whitney Point Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $4,995,000 • Revenue from state sources: $19,564,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $1,550,000 • Total revenue: $26,109,000 Financial Statistics for Susquehanna Valley Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $10,914,000 • Revenue from state sources: $19,218,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $1,166,000 • Total revenue: $31,298,000 Financial Statistics for Harpursville Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $3,227,000 • Revenue from state sources: $11,817,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $1,104,000 • Total revenue: $16,148,000 Financial Statistics for Windsor Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $9,961,000 • Revenue from state sources: $18,350,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $2,510,000 • Total revenue: $30,821,000 Financial Statistics for Deposit Central School District Revenue • Revenue from local sources: $6,536,000 • Revenue from state sources: $6,220,000 • Revenue from federal sources: $840,000 • Total revenue: $13,596,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Did you sign the pledge? Signed Printed Name/Town and State The person that you are answering is directly 180 degrees away from you and your pledge. However he is saying that he thinks paying for the teacher top line pay and benefit program is wrong. You are saying to pledge to give up everything that we have already been paying for. Both your views are foolish because they go to an extreme that no one wants or is looking for. Workers deserve a type of retirement and healthcare program.Just because teachers are paid by taxes should not mean that they should be held in high esteem or treated more favorably. Just like any other job they should be held to a standard and paid accordingly and dismissed it they are not up to the standards set. The standards should not be set by the teachers and their union but by their employers. Also their pay and benefits should be set by ability to pay not on their wants and needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 And don't forget the 2 million dollar diving pool, that no one uses. Diving pool? Are you saying they have a pool just for diving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Diving pool? Are you saying they have a pool just for diving? Doesn't every school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 The Maine-Endwell School District Teachers have a current 5 year contract that includes a whopping 4.5% (+) PAY INCREASE EVERY YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF 23%!!! Do you still feel sorry for them? APPENDIX A-1 A. 2008-2009 SALARY For the period beginning July 1, 2008 and ending June 30, 2009 the salary for “returning teachers” shall be increased by the amount as indicated below. When used in this Article, “returning teacher” is defined as a teacher who was in service during the previous year in these job titles. This would not apply to newly hired teachers or to a teacher who began service after September 1 of any school year or to a teacher who had been granted a leave without pay. The salary increase for these teachers, who did not serve a complete year, shall be on a pro-rated basis, in one-tenth (1/10th) parts, and shall be equal to the number of months, or greater part of a month, that the teacher actually served. The total salary increase shall equal four and six-tenths percent (4.6%). Four and four-tenths percent (4.4%) shall be distributed as an across-the-board salary increase. Two-tenths (.2%) of a percent (.002) shall be held back and used to provide longevity payments. Additionally, stipends will be frozen at the current rate for this contract year. The four and six-tenths percent (4.6%) which would have been earmarked for stipends will be combined with the aforementioned two-tenths percent (.002) holdback to create a pool of monies. These monies will be distributed as longevity increases as follows: Teachers achieving the second (2nd) or third (3rd) year tenure service benchmark (on anniversary of hiring date) and non-teaching members who have completed the three (3) year service benchmark by the start of the 2008-2009 school year or during the 2008-2009 school year shall receive a two hundred dollar ($200) increase to their base salary. Members who have reached or surpassed the seven (7) year of service benchmark to the District by the start of the 2008-2009 school year or during the 2008-2009 school year will receive a two hundred twenty-five dollar ($225) increase to their base salary. In addition, members who reach their twelfth (12th), seventeenth (17th) or twentysecond (22nd) years of service benchmarks (anniversary of hiring date) by the start of the 2008-2009 school year or during the 2008-2009 school year will receive a two hundred fifty dollar ($250) increase to their base salary. Bargaining unit members who qualify for multiple payments will receive them. Maine-Endwell Teachers’ Association Contract 2008-2013 Page 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Our tolerant, religion free, godless public school system also gives paid time off for church! D. RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE Teachers shall be allowed up to three (3) paid days for religious observance where as a requirement of his/her religion he observes his Sabbath or other holy day, including a reasonable time prior and subsequent thereto for travel between his place of employment and his home. If additional days are necessary the teacher may charge these to available personal business leave or unpaid leave if personal business days are not available. Requests for same shall be made at least five (5) days in advance on a form provided by the District. Maine-Endwell Teachers’ Association Contract 2008-2013 Page 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 We know - you sucked at school when you were a child and you blame the teachers for your parents being brother and sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 We know - you sucked at school when you were a child and you blame the teachers for your parents being brother and sister. 23% pay raise, 4 million dollar deficit. Instead of just teaching arithmetic maybe you should put it into practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 An abuse of taxpayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 3 days off for church another 3 days off for "personal business". Seems to be the same thing? C. PERSONAL BUSINESS LEAVE Personal business leave is paid leave for the conduct of personal business, including non-emergency medical attention, which cannot be conducted outside the school day or school year. An employee shall be granted up to three (3) personal business leave days per year. An employee shall be entitled to carry over no more than two (2) personal business leave days, but in no event shall an employee be entitled to use more than five (5) personal business leave days in any one (1) school year. New employee’s personal business leave days will be pro-rated on the basis of one (1) day per three (3) months or major part of month worked (maximum three [3] days) for employees entering the District during the school year. Any personal business leave days not used or carried over by July 1, shall be transferred to the employee’s sick leave accumulation. Maine-Endwell Teachers’ Association Contract 2008-2013 Page 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fried Egg Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Aw come on, they gave back a HUGE amount a few years ago. Everyone should thank them. I say 5% raises going forward, to bankruptcy and beyond! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 How long until they strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 An abuse of taxpayers. Especially the staff at Maine Memorial. Backstabbing, catty leaches that aren't exactly on top of the education food chain. Horrible teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GUest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I hope they do strike! That way you greedy ME taxpayers will have to babysit your kids. How long until they strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Fire them all in June and hire new. Bring the budget in balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fried Egg Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Wouldn't it be nice to lay em all off and then rehire. The state and the unions won't allow that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 How much do they pay for health ins ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 An abuse of taxpayers. The only recourse the taxpayers have is the school board elections. The school board must be a rubber stamp for the teachers union. How do you get a 5 year contract with raises like that? No arbitrator would approve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 How much do they pay for health ins ? Not much...... ARTICLE XVIII – INSURANCES A. HEALTH INSURANCE 1. The District agrees to pay on behalf of each eligible employee participating in the Central New York Region-wide Blue Cross/Blue Shield Plan or any other Health Insurance Plan mutually agreed upon by the District and Association the following: 2008-2009 Unit member’s health care insurance contribution will be: Individual three hundred fifty dollars ($350) Family six hundred fifty dollars ($650) 2009-2010 Unit member’s health care insurance contribution will be: Individual four hundred twenty-five dollars ($425) Family eight hundred dollars ($800) 2010-2011 Unit member’s health care insurance contribution will be: Individual five hundred dollars ($500) Family nine hundred twenty-five dollars ($925) 2011-2012 Unit member’s health care insurance contribution will be: Individual five hundred seventy-five dollars ($575) Family one thousand fifty dollars ($1,050) 2012-2013 Unit member’s health care insurance contribution will be: Individual six hundred twenty-five dollars ($625) Family one thousand one hundred seventy-five dollars ($1,175) In order to be eligible for the health care insurance benefit in retirement, the unit member must have worked a minimum of five (5) years in the District and retire from the District by drawing his/her pension immediately upon retirement from the District. Those individuals who have resigned from Maine-Endwell Central School District in order to receive retirement benefits from the New York State Teachers’ Retirement System or New York State Employees’ Retirement System on account of age and service and are receiving such benefits, shall be entitled to receive the same health cost reimbursement benefits as teaching employees actively employed by the District. The retired employee will pay one hundred percent (100%) of their contribution rate while on staff. Upon the death of a retiree, a spouse may continue the reimbursement plan, paying the full charge for an individual benefit plan. The health reimbursement plan which is currently offered by the District to active teaching employees provides basic Blue Cross/Blue Shield coverage, is $5/$10/$27 three-tier prescription co-payment and Major Medical deduction of one hundred dollars ($100) for individual and three hundred dollars ($300) for family plans. Reference is made to the Plan description booklet for a description of the benefits. The District will continue their investigation into the possibility of offering employees an option of participating in a Preferred Provider Organization Plan (PPO-H). Participation in such a Plan would be on a voluntary basis. Unit member contributions to the PPO-H Plan shall be as provided above. The Parties agree to bargain over the effects of offering such a Plan. The District is not required or responsible to make contribution to any governmental agency, such as the Social Security Administration on account of benefits that may be given or provided to a retiree. An example of such a contribution is payment toward or on account of Medicare Part B charges. 2. The District shall pay each eligible teacher, who elects not to participate in the Health Insurance Plan identified in this Article a fixed sum of money or pro-rated portion thereof, as follows: • The health insurance buy-out will be frozen at two thousand six hundred four dollars ($2,604) for all teachers hired prior to the 2002-2003 school year. • The health insurance buy-out for new teachers hired after the 2002- 2003 school year will be offered at two thousand dollars ($2,000). A teacher who elects this alternative instead of participating in the Health Insurance Plan shall inform the District in writing by the 15th day preceding the month they intend to participate. A teacher who elects this alternative to the Health Insurance Plan shall receive the sum of money, or part thereof, on the last day of September, December, March, and June for those months in which they elected this alternative. A teacher who later elects to participate in the Health Insurance Plan shall inform the District in writing by the 15th day preceding the month they intend to participate. Payment of the fixed sum of money, or pro-rated portion thereof, shall cease upon electing to participate in their Health Insurance Plan. The District reserves the right to restrict the number of times a teacher elects to participate in the Health Insurance Plan or this alternative in any one school year. B. DENTAL INSURANCE The District will provide to individual/family, and students to age twenty-five (25), Excellus Benefit Services Dental Plan Schedule A including Basic, Supplemental Basic, Orthodontics, Periodontics, Prosthetics. The District will pay no more than forty-one dollars and fifty-two cents ($41.52) per month towards the Family Premium cost and fourteen dollars and fifty cents ($14.50) per month towards the Individual Premium cost. The District agrees to allow NYSUT Member Benefit Trust Officials to meet with “payroll employees”. The District agrees to allow employees the right to participate in NYSUT Member Benefits as long as some minimal threshold number of participants is reached and there are not continuous billing problems. The District agrees to a two (2) year buy-out of dental at the rate currently paid for dental in the Excellus Plan. The District will contribute to the payment for an outside Excellus Dental Plan, with proof of enrollment in such plan, for employees over a two (2) year period. Following the two (2) years, employees will absorb the entire cost of such a plan. Maine-Endwell Teachers’ Association Contract 2008-2013 Page 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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