BaldEagle Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 I understand this Corona virus is serious. I understand its contagious as hell. I understand people are going to die from it. I do not however understand this nation wide defeatist attitude. We are teaching our children that this is some boogey man that is hiding in the shadows and will get us and kill us all. Bullshit. We need to stand up and say we are going to fight this, and we are going to beat this. We are not Italy, we are sure the fuck not China. We need to get our best and brightest on this, we need to keep a positive attitude, and we need someone to come out and say "Fuck this. We got this. We'll beat this. We are better than this. This is a temporary inconvenience, not a fucking death sentence"...Every single news report, every single article, every single comment is doom and fucking gloom. We stand up to cancer, we put a brave, resilient face on to every disease known to man.... but this has us negative, cowering, and afraid. I'm tired of it. Fuck it. If I get it, I will beat it. So will you. This is the message that we should be seeing, but it simply is not, and it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMoss Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, BaldEagle said: I understand this Corona virus is serious. I understand its contagious as hell. I understand people are going to die from it. I do not however understand this nation wide defeatist attitude. We are teaching our children that this is some boogey man that is hiding in the shadows and will get us and kill us all. Bullshit. We need to stand up and say we are going to fight this, and we are going to beat this. We are not Italy, we are sure the fuck not China. We need to get our best and brightest on this, we need to keep a positive attitude, and we need someone to come out and say "Fuck this. We got this. We'll beat this. We are better than this. This is a temporary inconvenience, not a fucking death sentence"...Every single news report, every single article, every single comment is doom and fucking gloom. We stand up to cancer, we put a brave, resilient face on to every disease known to man.... but this has us negative, cowering, and afraid. I'm tired of it. Fuck it. If I get it, I will beat it. So will you. This is the message that we should be seeing, but it simply is not, and it sucks. People's reaction to this depends on their political orientation. dems are defeatists, don't fight, give up and die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Question...a patient in a nursing home falls, hits their head and has to be sent out...where are they going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMoss Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 To a hospital ER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldEagle Posted March 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 No clue Ginger. But fuck this virus. Spread the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Sweetheart I'm doing my best to advocate. One of our hospitals must be designated "clean" for our nursing home and elderly populations to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldEagle Posted March 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, ginger said: Sweetheart I'm doing my best to advocate. One of our hospitals must be "clean" for our nursing home population to go to. I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 We hope needed supplies will be stocked after the 2 weeks. And some medicine available for those infected. Then we'll return to more normal routines with precautions. We're between a rock and a hard place and killing the economy is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19April1775 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 12 hours ago, BaldEagle said: I understand this Corona virus is serious. I understand its contagious as hell. I understand people are going to die from it. I do not however understand this nation wide defeatist attitude. We are teaching our children that this is some boogey man that is hiding in the shadows and will get us and kill us all. Bullshit. We need to stand up and say we are going to fight this, and we are going to beat this. We are not Italy, we are sure the fuck not China. We need to get our best and brightest on this, we need to keep a positive attitude, and we need someone to come out and say "Fuck this. We got this. We'll beat this. We are better than this. This is a temporary inconvenience, not a fucking death sentence"...Every single news report, every single article, every single comment is doom and fucking gloom. We stand up to cancer, we put a brave, resilient face on to every disease known to man.... but this has us negative, cowering, and afraid. I'm tired of it. Fuck it. If I get it, I will beat it. So will you. This is the message that we should be seeing, but it simply is not, and it sucks. Welcome to my world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19April1775 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 The media hysteria tide should fizzle somewhat soon if you didn't see my other post. They won't be able to ignore this forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 I kind of had this idea last night and I'm scouring the internet for any info...have you ever had a ct scan with contrast? It's iodine. I look at those depictions of what they say the virus (cell) looks like...I just wonder if something like that could interfere with miosis or the dreaded receptor site. Maybe one dose could interfere enough to buy the patient some time? post edit...so I just learned something new...there is an ultrasound contrast called microbubbles and after the test this compound is eliminated through exhalation. the bubble is coated with albumin, a protein that could maybe bind with the virus protein? How cool would it be if you could get the contrast to bind to the virus or part of the virus and just exhale it out...somewhere safe of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Maybe they could engineer the microbubbles to bind to the virus and act like pop rocks. BTW the microbubbles are smaller than a red blood cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldEagle Posted March 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/coronavirus-turning-point-in-us-will-be-earlier-than-predicted-nobel-laureate-says/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19April1775 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, BaldEagle said: https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/coronavirus-turning-point-in-us-will-be-earlier-than-predicted-nobel-laureate-says/ Have you been attacked by PanicPete yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 10:26 AM, ginger said: I kind of had this idea last night and I'm scouring the internet for any info...have you ever had a ct scan with contrast? It's iodine. I look at those depictions of what they say the virus (cell) looks like...I just wonder if something like that could interfere with miosis or the dreaded receptor site. Maybe one dose could interfere enough to buy the patient some time? post edit...so I just learned something new...there is an ultrasound contrast called microbubbles and after the test this compound is eliminated through exhalation. the bubble is coated with albumin, a protein that could maybe bind with the virus protein? How cool would it be if you could get the contrast to bind to the virus or part of the virus and just exhale it out...somewhere safe of course. On 3/24/2020 at 10:54 AM, ginger said: Maybe they could engineer the microbubbles to bind to the virus and act like pop rocks. BTW the microbubbles are smaller than a red blood cell. Because I'm just that good...maybe soon we won't lose people like Neil Peart who also died from glioblastoma. https://www.bioworld.com/articles/431673-lantheus-expands-microbubble-cancer-applications-with-carthera-collaboration I bet they could make it work for virus'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19April1775 Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko Board Certified Family Practitioner 501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950 845-238-0000 March 23, 2020 To all medical professionals around the world: My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing. As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc). Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results: 1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated. 2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated. 3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2). My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows: 1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days 2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days 3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low. Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen. Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea. In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives. With much respect, Dr. Zev Zelenko cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SesxgaPnpT6OfCYuaFSwXzDK4cDKMbivoALprcVFj48/mobilebasic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hi 75 This is good if you can catch the virus early enough... the problem is, you could be coughing up a lung...you could hear the crackles without a stethoscope ...good luck trying to get an antibiotic in Broome County. I'm trying to find some answer to knocking the viral load down and or out in one fell swoop. Those drugs take time to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Responsible_Adult_Female Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 8:59 PM, ginger said: Question...a patient in a nursing home falls, hits their head and has to be sent out...where are they going? Be more worried about Governor Cuomo sending a COVID patient to a nursing home. Nursing homes have been directed that they must accept COVID patients if told to do so. So if a nursing home is COVID free they still run the chance of being infected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joehill7469 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 8:36 PM, BaldEagle said: I understand this Corona virus is serious. I understand its contagious as hell. I understand people are going to die from it. I do not however understand this nation wide defeatist attitude. We are teaching our children that this is some boogey man that is hiding in the shadows and will get us and kill us all. Bullshit. We need to stand up and say we are going to fight this, and we are going to beat this. We are not Italy, we are sure the fuck not China. We need to get our best and brightest on this, we need to keep a positive attitude, and we need someone to come out and say "Fuck this. We got this. We'll beat this. We are better than this. This is a temporary inconvenience, not a fucking death sentence"...Every single news report, every single article, every single comment is doom and fucking gloom. We stand up to cancer, we put a brave, resilient face on to every disease known to man.... but this has us negative, cowering, and afraid. I'm tired of it. Fuck it. If I get it, I will beat it. So will you. This is the message that we should be seeing, but it simply is not, and it sucks. So well put, I could not have put it any better. One main problem though is the never ending hatred for our President that the media has pushed that puts a negative spin on everything positive, for once I would like all this hatred to go away and work as a united front to beat this scourge, in the end we ALL can stand up and say we are proud Americans and strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Responsible_Adult_Female said: Be more worried about Governor Cuomo sending a COVID patient to a nursing home. Nursing homes have been directed that they must accept COVID patients if told to do so. So if a nursing home is COVID free they still run the chance of being infected. Good morning...everyone... RAF, did you miss the thread I started? Then again, if they aren't testing... https://www.bcvoice.com/topic/57426-mandated-nursing-homes-directive/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Well this reads rather ominously but it does give instructions on how to make a mask out of coffee filters. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/news/2020/03/21/at-brooklyn-health-facility--coffee-filters-eyed-in-mask-shortage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 re: making masks...^"You should have talked about that 2 weeks ago" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Responsible_Adult_Female Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, ginger said: Good morning...everyone... RAF, did you miss the thread I started? Then again, if they aren't testing... https://www.bcvoice.com/topic/57426-mandated-nursing-homes-directive/ Sorry, I hadn't realized there was a thread for this - I wrote over there about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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