DanCooper Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Breaking News: STAC has taken away all wins except Friday’s victory over JC. This is due to an ineligible (out of district) player on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UE MOM2 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 This is unreal! Where did you hear this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section4Mike Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 From the reliable sources I have, it’s true, but M-E is challenging it. I suspect nothing will be definitive for several days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Confirmed: ME is appealing. JC AD ratted them out. This was VanFossen’s call all the way on the status of the player. Truly an unforced error. ME board should demand accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 46 minutes ago, UE MOM2 said: This is unreal! Where did you hear this? I have reliable birdies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 So Paske waited till this late to make his protest for maximum effect. We’ll played. Forks you get your W back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section4Mike Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, DanCooper said: So Paske waited till this late to make his protest for maximum effect. We’ll played. Forks you get your W back. You do realize Paske, the JC AD, is also the Section 4 Football Chairman right? Don’t toss this on him or anyone from any other school. If this is a legitimate violation place it solely on the shoulders of M-E’s AD and no one else. This happened in another sport in this section not too long ago so the AD’s should know how to dot ALL the i’s and cross all the t’s on transfers. Let’s just hope there was not a violation and nothing comes of it. The kid’s certainly do not deserve this. If there was a violation, then the loss of W’s is warranted unfortunately, and the kids suffer because an adult did not do his job completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Section4Mike said: You do realize Paske, the JC AD, is also the Section 4 Football Chairman right? Don’t toss this on him or anyone from any other school. If this is a legitimate violation place it solely on the shoulders of M-E’s AD and no one else. This happened in another sport in this section not too long ago so the AD’s should know how to dot ALL the i’s and cross all the t’s on transfers. Let’s just hope there was not a violation and nothing comes of it. The kid’s certainly do not deserve this. If there was a violation, then the loss of W’s is warranted unfortunately, and the kids suffer because an adult did not do his job completely. You’re not reading closely enough. ME shouldn’t blame him at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, DanCooper said: You’re not reading closely enough. ME shouldn’t blame him at all. Moreover, IF Paske knew about this at the start of the season he should have acted sooner - not at the end of the season. This is about the kids not adults and their ego’s. Kids got hurt on the field for apparently nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section4Mike Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, DanCooper said: You’re not reading closely enough. ME shouldn’t blame him at all. YOU said “JC AD ratted them out.”. That’s Paske. I did not mean you blame Paske. I clearly said the M-E AD is to blame. As we both said, it’s the kids that suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Section4Mike said: YOU said “JC AD ratted them out.”. That’s Paske. I did not mean you blame Paske. I clearly said the M-E AD is to blame. As we both said, it’s the kids that suffer. We’re on the same side here. The phrase was tongue in cheek, not meant to shoot the messenger. Let’s see where the appeal goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Mitchell Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Guessing this has to do with the Policare divorce from Vestal. He wasn't suited up for last night's game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Well one thing is for sure if there was a game at ME there more than like is an Oversized Mara Grace Campaign sign there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Mitchell Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Luckily the rest of the Sect 4 B division is extremely weak and thin. Even if the first 5 wins get vacated they'll still make the state playoffs. Probably won't go very far however without Jordan Owens or Anthony Policare in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section4Mike Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Hank Mitchell said: Luckily the rest of the Sect 4 B division is extremely weak and thin. Even if the first 5 wins get vacated they'll still make the state playoffs. Not necessarily. Just 3 B teams make the playoffs this year. So they’d have to beat Windsor next week to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeTheDrunk Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Section4Mike said: Not necessarily. Just 3 B teams make the playoffs this year. So they’d have to beat Windsor next week to get in. JC beat Windsor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTO Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 I am absolutely opposed to talking about children on this forum... any kid should remain nameless. Let's please try to respect that. Knowing the details, I do suspect the original ruling will be overturned as the rules appear to have been followed. All four teams will make the playoffs in Class B. It comes down to seeding. After a win Friday, the team is tied for first seed. When / if you post on this, my hope would be that everyone continues to remember that at the heart of any situation like this is a kid / group of kids who are caught up in it. It will all pass and, it is too bad that it was not handled a little more delicately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMoss Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 10 hours ago, GTO said: I am absolutely opposed to talking about children on this forum... any kid should remain nameless. Let's please try to respect that. Knowing the details, I do suspect the original ruling will be overturned as the rules appear to have been followed. All four teams will make the playoffs in Class B. It comes down to seeding. After a win Friday, the team is tied for first seed. When / if you post on this, my hope would be that everyone continues to remember that at the heart of any situation like this is a kid / group of kids who are caught up in it. It will all pass and, it is too bad that it was not handled a little more delicately. Stop giving bad behavior a pass. Either the kid lives in the ME district or he doesn't. One exception, there is a 50 mile limit in NYS for homeless students. Technically a student could be homeless in Norwich but if he identifies as an ME student, ME will have to bus him from Norwich to ME. That is the only exception that I know of. http://www.nysed.gov/essa/mckinney-vento-homeless-education Second, this is not a victimless incident. There is at least 1 ME student that did not get to play football. What about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTO Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Pete, I agree with what you are saying and trust me I have a pretty solid handle on the rules. It's not a pass and I'll be shocked if he is not re-instated as he did not break the rules. I can tell you that much for certain, and without hesitation. And, its a kid... It will play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, GTO said: Pete, I agree with what you are saying and trust me I have a pretty solid handle on the rules. It's not a pass and I'll be shocked if he is not re-instated as he did not break the rules. I can tell you that much for certain, and without hesitation. And, its a kid... It will play out. We should find out today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExBinger Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, PeteMoss said: Stop giving bad behavior a pass. Either the kid lives in the ME district or he doesn't. One exception, there is a 50 mile limit in NYS for homeless students. Technically a student could be homeless in Norwich but if he identifies as an ME student, ME will have to bus him from Norwich to ME. That is the only exception that I know of. http://www.nysed.gov/essa/mckinney-vento-homeless-education Second, this is not a victimless incident. There is at least 1 ME student that did not get to play football. What about him? Well I know of a family that lives in Binghamton, but they send their kids to ME schools, and they have to pay for them to go there. They, like Mara YOUNG (Mark's sister) don't want their kids to go to school with, what they refer to, as the scumbags in the Binghamton School district. They just don't want to leave their west side abode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section4Mike Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 7:44 PM, Section4Mike said: Not necessarily. Just 3 B teams make the playoffs this year. So they’d have to beat Windsor next week to get in. I misread the handbook. All four do indeed make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/74268723833/posts/10159652625283834/?d=n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTO Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 I told you guys I'd be surprised, and I'm surprised. I do suspect there is an appeal process etc but will be interesting to see how it all plays out. The team will still make the playoffs etc.. I do feel very badly for the kid, he's caught up in a mess not of his creating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, GTO said: I told you guys I'd be surprised, and I'm surprised. I do suspect there is an appeal process etc but will be interesting to see how it all plays out. The team will still make the playoffs etc.. I do feel very badly for the kid, he's caught up in a mess not of his creating... Looking at the WBNG posting, the JC game is a loss now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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