ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Factchecker said: You crack me up lol. Yup clearly Emily is innocent and all the other people Emily has committed crimes against, including her own mother, should just shut up and call it a day. There also mitigating factors to consider that could be considered in a TRIAL. Like the fact all of this occurred during the pandemic and the stressors implicated in that with reference to relationships suffering. Looking at this from my point of view...Big Picture...if the judge were to allow clean hands doctrine, it has the potential to become a landmark case. Too bad none of us has the money to take it there. It would be really interesting. Too bad we couldn't have a parallel mock trial/moot court to test it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factchecker Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, ginger said: There also mitigating factors to consider that could be considered in a TRIAL. Like the fact all of this occurred during the pandemic and the stressors implicated in that with reference to relationships suffering. Looking at this from my point of view...Big Picture...if the judge were to allow clean hands doctrine, it has the potential to become a landmark case. Too bad none of us has the money to take it there. It would be really interesting. Too bad we couldn't have a parallel mock trial/moot court to test it. Emily has been harassing people long before the pandemic. There’s a long, documented and public history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Factchecker said: Emily has been harassing people long before the pandemic. There’s a long, documented and public history. Then let them sit for a deposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factchecker Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, ginger said: Then let them sit for a deposition. Who said they wouldn’t or shouldn’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ginger said: knew right then and there why Emily was not responding to Rachel, I just didn't want to say so. You knew? Just like how you have said on this thread you know what Emily is thinking? Sure Ginger keep up the bs. If you know what someone else is thinking what are they thinking of right now ? Such a joke 1 hour ago, ginger said: Let me get this straight...random people get to write letters to the judge and accuse Emily of anything they want AFTER THE FACT? Without being challenged? lol If they are witnesses let them take the stand or shut up. I bet most of them can be impeached pretrial. you should be her lawyer, it appears as though you want to try this case out on social media lol reach out to mike Korchak if you know so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, ginger said: There also mitigating factors to consider that could be considered in a TRIAL. Like the fact all of this occurred during the pandemic and the stressors implicated in that with reference to relationships suffering. Looking at this from my point of view...Big Picture...if the judge were to allow clean hands doctrine, it has the potential to become a landmark case. Too bad none of us has the money to take it there. It would be really interesting. Too bad we couldn't have a parallel mock trial/moot court to test it. She’s not going to trial or she would lose lol that’s why she’s upset she has to take a plea deal but if you are talking a civil suit like I’m hearing rich David has mounting then by all means contact him on Facebook maybe he will consider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bingking said: You knew? Just like how you have said on this thread you know what Emily is thinking? Sure Ginger keep up the bs. If you know what someone else is thinking what are they thinking of right now ? Such a joke you should be her lawyer, it appears as though you want to try this case out on social media lol reach out to mike Korchak if you know so much Oh fine...I suspected that's why she didn't answer Rachel. All better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bingking said: She’s not going to trial or she would lose lol that’s why she’s upset she has to take a plea deal but if you are talking a civil suit like I’m hearing rich David has mounting then by all means contact him on Facebook maybe he will consider If she doesn't go to trial there is no place to appeal, even on a technicality. And it looks like there might be opportunity for that already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bingking said: She’s not going to trial or she would lose lol that’s why she’s upset she has to take a plea deal but if you are talking a civil suit like I’m hearing rich David has mounting then by all means contact him on Facebook maybe he will consider I was referring to using Clean Hands Doctrine for a criminal TRIAL...there is the real estate issue that could be, may be, let it be allowed? I'm pretty sure it would be precedent setting...lol a win for women for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just now, ginger said: I was referring to using Clean Hands Doctrine for a criminal TRIAL...there is the real estate issue that could be, may be, let it be allowed? I'm pretty sure it would be precedent setting...lol a win for women for sure! No wonder Emily has 4 open cases in criminal court, listening to your legal advice sure is helping her situation out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzo Ferrari Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 If this whole situation between Emily and Rich started because she didn't get paid for her mosaic, and assuming they had an affair, wouldn't it have gone away if Rich did what a gentleman would do and reach in his pocket and said something like , "Hey, you did the work, it looks great. if no one else wants to pay you for your work, I will." It's not like he couldn't afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Bingking said: No wonder Emily has 4 open cases in criminal court, listening to your legal advice sure is helping her situation out Really? Do you want to look at the timing? I begged her to see a doctor. She would have been on medication WAY earlier than she was. I'm pretty sure I asked, Can't the court just send her to the hospital for 3 days? For some reason I thought they could or..maybe her parents could make that happen. Another mitigating factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenB Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ginger said: My mom and I totally supported you if you recall. Yes I do and I appreciate to this day. I'm just comparing the 2 situations. If I did this I would be in jail already and wouldn't be getting out... Just because OF MY NAME. Now why is it that there is a double standard here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenB Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ginger said: The first post I SAW from Rachel on BCV directly addressing Emily had something to do with a friendship gone south from high school. I knew right then and there why Emily was not responding to Rachel, I just didn't want to say so. I didn't go to HS with Emily. We had mutual friends. That mutual friend is the one that dealt with Emily's crazy. This was back in maybe 01 or 02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, QueenB said: Yes I do and I appreciate to this day. I'm just comparing the 2 situations. If I did this I would be in jail already and wouldn't be getting out... Just because OF MY NAME. Now why is it that there is a double standard here? psst... It's a man's world. Navigating can be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, ginger said: Really? Do you want to look at the timing? I begged her to see a doctor. She would have been on medication WAY earlier than she was. I'm pretty sure I asked, Can't the court just send her to the hospital for 3 days? For some reason I thought they could or..maybe her parents could make that happen. Another mitigating factor. She was being told she couldn't see a doctor of her choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 56 minutes ago, Benzo Ferrari said: If this whole situation between Emily and Rich started because she didn't get paid for her mosaic, and assuming they had an affair, wouldn't it have gone away if Rich did what a gentleman would do and reach in his pocket and said something like , "Hey, you did the work, it looks great. if no one else wants to pay you for your work, I will." It's not like he couldn't afford it. There was no contract in place for Columbus park and she never worked for them it’s funny when Emily claimed a hostile work environment when there was no work environment for hostility to even begin. Their was no affair because none of those two were married to other people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 53 minutes ago, ginger said: Really? Do you want to look at the timing? I begged her to see a doctor. She would have been on medication WAY earlier than she was. I'm pretty sure I asked, Can't the court just send her to the hospital for 3 days? For some reason I thought they could or..maybe her parents could make that happen. Another mitigating factor. That’s the problem her parents are enabling her and Rachel is doing the right thing trying to get her help when many other people close to her seem to be looking the other way. And honey it’s going to be more than three days because that 730 mental hygiene evaluation if they deem her unfit she has to go to rehabilitation by force which is mandated by the courts for 90 days of treatment according to what I’ve read. Also, she could get outpatient at the bare minimum but anyone can see from a Mile away outpatient wouldn’t help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Bingking said: That’s the problem her parents are enabling her and Rachel is doing the right thing trying to get her help when many other people close to her seem to be looking the other way. And honey it’s going to be more than three days because that 730 mental hygiene evaluation if they deem her unfit she has to go to rehabilitation by force which is mandated by the courts for 90 days of treatment according to what I’ve read. Also, she could get outpatient at the bare minimum but anyone can see from a Mile away outpatient wouldn’t help And people here were saying she needed immediate MEDICAL ATTENTION. The court just ignored that, and dug their heels in. Anything she said or did after she requested a doctor should be THROWN OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingking Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Factchecker said: Who said they wouldn’t or shouldn’t? Today doesn’t seem like a good day for Ginger and Emily, someone hit a tough spot with Ginger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bingking said: Today doesn’t seem like a good day for Ginger and Emily, someone hit a tough spot with Ginger Fact checker opened a door and tipped their hand in a direction I'll go back to when I get a chance...I'm posting in between doing laundry, cleaning my kitchen and digging out my spring stuff...I have to clean out the fridge now.... (roll eyes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, ginger said: And people here were saying she needed immediate MEDICAL ATTENTION. The court just ignored that, and dug their heels in. Anything she said or did after she requested a doctor should be THROWN OUT. In my opinion, she was misled. Her medical treatment was delayed by this very court. I think it warrants grounds for dismissal. If it's not grounds for dismissal then I would think it's grounds for an appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 lol...So not fair... https://www.supremecourt.gov/casehand/AmicusGuide2019.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Bingking said: No wonder Emily has 4 open cases in criminal court, listening to your legal advice sure is helping her situation out Hi Emily, please note I'm not giving you legal or medical advice. I am trying to be supportive. I don't know if I'm helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 Back to Origins .. Love this line...pg 99. AFTER SULLIVAN, the courts new definition of actual malice doctrine could be called a privilege in progress and its rationales appear to be moving targets. In my opinion, maybe some of Emily's comments might fall under public scrutiny/ fair comment of public officials. Do I really have to say " in my opinion" for every post? Pg 92 footnote 107 The only Coleman rationale cited in SULLIVAN is the argument that the social benefit of discussions of the character and qualifications of the candidate for public office outweighs THE OCCASIONAL injury to the reputation of individuals which must yield to the public welfare. Pg105 footnote 124. .need for breathing space for negligently false comment for the expression of truth to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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