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You are correct. When a Democrat has an affair (even with a DELETED) it is with a WOMAN.

Now, when repugs, such as Larry Craig have an affair, they play catcher and pitcher with a man or DELETED....

You are so right. Thank you for pointing this out.

 

Dirty Democrat = Gets down with WOMAN

Dirty Repug= Gets Down with Dudes

 

 

Elliot is truley an idiot though. Seriously dude (ES) think with the brain in your big head.

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Hey guest Repug, in the endless list of Typical DEMOCRAT behaviour I will remind you of one.

 

Do you forget the still sitting DEMOCRAT Congressman who got away with running a MALE Homosexual Prostitution ring from his home? Not that it matters, a Democrat will always be a low life.

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Hey guest Repug, in the endless list of Typical DEMOCRAT behaviour I will remind you of one.

 

Do you forget the still sitting DEMOCRAT Congressman who got away with running a MALE Homosexual Prostitution ring from his home? Not that it matters, a Democrat will always be a low life.

 

 

Well, the politician is Barney Frank. He is openly gay and yes, he was indeed "part of a gay prostitution ring". He offered full explanation multiple times. Unlike Spitzer and the Gay Republican Majority (see Jeff Gannon - White House Press, Larry Craig, etc.) He was not pious and on a platform condemning one lifestyle or act and then committing the same exact act or living the same lifestyle. It is well documented on Frank, use your computer for something other than your posts lacking thought or intelligence.

 

I am a liberal and think Spitzer should be gone...long gone now, not because he got it on with a prostitute (male or female) but for the hypocracy of the former AG and now how he conducts himself as Gov.

 

Thank you again for reminding me of something I did not forget. You sound like a classy individual.

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Well, the politician is Barney Frank. He is openly gay and yes, he was indeed "part of a gay prostitution ring". He offered full explanation multiple times. Unlike Spitzer and the Gay Republican Majority (see Jeff Gannon - White House Press, Larry Craig, etc.) He was not pious and on a platform condemning one lifestyle or act and then committing the same exact act or living the same lifestyle. It is well documented on Frank, use your computer for something other than your posts lacking thought or intelligence.

 

I am a liberal and think Spitzer should be gone...long gone now, not because he got it on with a prostitute (male or female) but for the hypocracy of the former AG and now how he conducts himself as Gov.

 

Thank you again for reminding me of something I did not forget. You sound like a classy individual.

 

GD here was a quote from Frank (italics) and the Frank Rule: (It is OK to be GAY) It is not OK if you are a Repug named Larry Craig and use the Floor to declare the gay lifestyle morally wrong, only to walk off the floor and solicit a gay tryst in a bathroom. If you are looking for something kinky and want to pay a prostitute a large sum of money (not my idea of a good time but I amnot the moral police) go for it...unless you are named Elliot Spitzer and have been an AG making a name for yourself in the way you come down hard (come down hard...classic) on Prostitution.

 

The Frank Rule

Frank's blunt stance on outing certain gay Republicans has become well-publicized, dubbed "The Frank Rule" — that it is acceptable to out a closeted gay person, if that person uses their power or notoriety to hurt gay people.[16] The issue became especially relevant during the Mark Foley page scandal of 2006, during which Frank clarified his position on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher:

 

I think there's a right to privacy. But the right to privacy should not be a right to hypocrisy. And people who want to demonize other people shouldn't then be able to go home and close the door and do it themselves.[17]

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I think there's a right to privacy. But the right to privacy should not be a right to hypocrisy. And people who want to demonize other people shouldn't then be able to go home and close the door and do it themselves.[17]

 

Which is exactly what hypocrite Spitzer did.

 

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Which is exactly what hypocrite Spitzer did.

 

 

EXACTLY WHAT HE DID!!! That was the point. Spitzer is a hypocrit of the worst kind...a hypocrit with power. I said, in all the posts, he, like the repugs, should be held accountable.

 

I'll use larger text next time and bold letters with color.

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I am curious to what you could possibly do in 1 hour for 5 grand that your wife couldnt of done better and for free....

 

 

Hmmm, THAT isn't zactly FREE either!

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The Bush affairs

 

There is no shortage of stories on the Internet about alleged extramarital affairs involving the Bush clan. But for whatever reason, including that the media was owned by conservatives, they were not popularly known.

 

Besides the Schoedinger case, Bush Jr. was linked to a 39-year-old Texas woman, Tammy Phillips. The former stripper was quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an 18-month affair with Bush that had ended in June 1999, while Bush campaigned for the presidency. 7

 

Phillips said she was introduced to then-Texas Gov. Bush by her Republican uncle in Dec. 1997 during a political event in Midland, Tx. She said that she and Bush, who married Laura Bush two decades before, made “passionate love” that very day.

 

However, that raised a red flag right there. I can’t see the attention-challenged Bush making “passionate love” to anyone, unless such was defined as lasting ten seconds or less. The Enquirer also said that the uncle disputed introducing Bush and Phillips, who I could not reach for comment.

 

According to the story, Bush and Phillips had sex eight more times, including a Best Western motel room in Houston. “It was simply sex,” she told the Enquirer. “It was the cheapest relationship you can imagine.” Now that I can believe.

 

Another story was told to me by a Texas woman who said Bush Jr. followed her around the HemisFair, an international festival in 1968 in San Antonio, when he was 22 and she was but 14.

 

“I was mature for my age,” she said. “He approached me and insisted I drink some beer. He apparently wanted me to get drunk. I told him I was underaged, and he said if the cops came, we wouldn’t get in trouble because of who he was. He knew I was underaged and finally left me alone.”

 

Then there were the reports about the gay affair between Bush and former college roommate and fellow Bonesman Victor Ashe. That was covered in the first chapter of this book. 8

 

Who can forget Bush telling right-wing FOX broadcaster Brit Hume in 2003 that he had a “beautiful face?” That was a lie in itself – Hume looks more like a sour-faced bulldog. A Canadian newspaper also reported that in January 2004 Bush had nothing better to do at an international conference than tell Scott Reid, an aide to Prime Minister Paul Martin, that he had a “pretty face” and was a “good-looking guy. Better looking than my Scott [McClellan] anyway.” 9

 

Then, Betty Bowers pointedly and hilariously wrote about Bush’s overuse of the word, “fabulous.” The press reported most comments as a joke, but the frequency of such comments made one wonder – if not about Bush’s sexual orientation, then about his shallowness. 10

 

There were more stories about Bush’s brothers, Jeb and Neil.

 

Jeb Bush reportedly had an affair with Cynthia Henderson, a former Playboy bunny who he put in charge of the Florida Department of Management Services at a salary of $114,000 a year in 1999. Bush also appointed Henderson to run the Department of Business and Professional Regulation in 1999.

 

But he had to transfer her after a state ethics investigation into her accepting personal favors - including a private plane ride to the Kentucky Derby - from Outback Steakhouse, a company her office was supposed to regulate. Henderson also reportedly helped obtain state jobs for her nanny and the nanny’s boyfriend, and she was also sued by a state employee who alleged that Henderson grabbed him by the throat and threatened to choke him to death. 11

 

While some Bush advisors and newspapers called on Henderson to be fired, Bush refused and publicly denied in May 2001 that he had as much as been in a room alone with Henderson after mostly alternative media published the allegations. Unlike with Clinton, Condit, and other Democrats like potential 1988 presidential candidate Gary Hart, the major media did not aggressively pursue the story and check out whether Bush was telling the truth. In former Sen. Hart’s case, the media even staked out his Washington home to report an alleged affair he had with model Donna Rice. As late as 1998, Hart called the media frenzy surrounding him “fascist.” 12

 

Contrast that treatment with what The Washington Post did after learning that Democratic Maryland Gov. Parris Glendening supposedly had sex with Jennifer Crawford, his unmarried chief of staff, while he was separated from his wife. The Post put two reporters to spy on Glendening and Crawford and reported in Sept. 2001 that Glendening eased out of Crawford’s home early on a few mornings that summer.

 

There were several problems with the story, such as there was no regulation prohibiting state employees from sleeping with each other, the Baltimore City Paper reported. “This was a sleazy intrusion into the governor’s personal life, sleazily delivered, and for sleazy motives,” Wiley Hall III wrote in the Baltimore publication. “The only ones who emerged from this affair with dignity intact were the governor, who had his aides declare ‘no comment’ and refused thereafter to be baited, and the people of Maryland, who reacted to the message with the collective yawn it deserved.” 13

 

Meanwhile, did The Post or any other media outlet put such time and resources into catching Jeb and Cynthia? Are you kidding? As Online Journal columnist Sally Slate wrote in July 2001, “Isn’t the silence of the so-called mainstream media - you know, the folks who could not get enough of ‘all Monica, all the time’ and who are now obsessing over ‘all Condit, all the time’ - interesting in light of all the Jeb-Henderson stories making the rounds in Florida? Of course, when it comes to Republicans, these are just ‘youthful indiscretions,’ after all Gov. Bush is under 50. If he were a Democrat, well, just ask Rep. Condit.” 14

 

Slate wrote about an anecdote that could easily be checked out - how Bush reportedly used $1,900 in taxpayers’ money to replace a bed that he said broke while his wife was away. 15

 

Retired U.S. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Al Martin, author of The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider, wrote in his Internet column, Al Martin Raw, that Jeb Bush had been videotaped by an FBI surveillance camera at the 2001 Super Bowl in Tampa with Henderson. Martin also wrote that Henderson was seeking money to keep quiet about the alleged affair. 16

 

Martin said Henderson also worked for Neil Bush in the 1980s when he was running a Florida real estate company and might know something about the Bush brothers that kept her employed in the cushy Florida job. Martin also wrote that all of the Bush brothers were known adulterers. 17

 

To help keep the media from doing serious investigation into this alleged affair, Jeb’s mafia reportedly threatened Vanity Fair, the supermarket tabloid The Globe, and WPOW-FM’s Bo Griffin, who received a “spooky” call from the governor’s office demanding to know her source. Most media, however, needed no such calls to stay away from the story. 18

 

But the media could not overlook the obvious affairs of Neil Bush - check this in the New York Daily News from Bush’s deposition in his divorce case against former wife Sharon Bush in 2003:

 

Neil Bush: “I had sexual intercourse with perhaps three or four, I don’t remember the exact number, women, at different times. In Thailand once, I have a pretty clear recollection that there was one time in Thailand and in Hong Kong.”

Marshall Davis Brown, Sharon Bush’s attorney: “And you were married to Mrs. Bush?”

Bush: “Yes.”

Brown: “Is that where you caught the venereal diseases?”

Bush: “No.”

Brown: “Where did you catch those?”

Bush: “Diseases plural? I didn’t catch...”

Brown: “Well, I’m sorry. How ... how many venereal diseases do you suffer from?”

Bush: “I’ve had one venereal disease.”

Brown: “Which was?”

Bush: “Herpes.”

Brown: “Did you pay them for that sex?”

Bush: “No, I did not.”

Brown: “Pick them up in a sushi house?”

Bush: “No. ... My recollection is, where I can recall, they came to my room.”

 

Sharon Bush also said that Maria Andrews’s young child was Neil’s, a claim Andrews denied. Neil Bush and Andrews got engaged in 2003. 19

 

The press at least mentioned reports of Bush Sr. having a long-time affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald, a former aide that Bush reportedly helped rise through the ranks. Among those printing the allegation in 1988 or 1992 were The Boston Globe, Philadelphia Daily News, New York Post, and Columbia Journalism Review. 20

 

The right-wing site NewsMax even said that Clinton foe Linda Tripp knew about and spread the Bush-Fitzgerald connection. “To the Bushes [Tripp] is the one who exposed their own scandalous behavior and subsequent cover-up,” NewsMax wrote. 21

 

For some odd reason that came down to wimping out, Democrats never capitalized on these affairs. The 1988 presidential campaign of Democrat Michael Dukakis actually fired Donna Brazile for merely trying to get reporters to look into the reports that Bush Sr. had an affair. Meanwhile, Republican operatives were rewarded financially for spreading such rumors about prominent Democrats. And Democrats kept scratching their heads, wondering why they lost elections when they were afraid to really fight back.

 

The affairs of Reagan and the conservatives who went after Clinton

 

Ronald Reagan was revered by conservatives - even to the

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THE CLINTON LEGACY

 

RECORDS SET

 

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance

- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*

- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation

- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify

- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly

- First president sued for sexual harassment.

- First president accused of rape.

- First first lady to come under criminal investigation

- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case

- First president to establish a legal defense fund.

- First president to be held in contempt of court

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

 

* According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.

 

Using a far looser standard that included resignations, David R. Simon and D. Stanley Eitzen in Elite Deviance, say that 138 appointees of the Reagan administration either resigned under an ethical cloud or were criminally indicted. Curiously Haynes Johnson uses the same figure but with a different standard in "Sleep-Walking Through History: America in the Reagan Years: "By the end of his term, 138 administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."

 

STARR-RAY INVESTIGATION

 

- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14

- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5

- Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4

- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3

 

CRIME STATS

 

- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47

- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33

- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61

- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122

 

SMALTZ INVESTIGATION

 

- Guilty pleas and convictions obtained by Donald Smaltz in cases involving charges of bribery and fraud against former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy and associated individuals and businesses: 15

- Acquitted or overturned cases (including Espy): 6

- Fines and penalties assessed: $11.5 million

- Amount Tyson Food paid in fines and court costs: $6 million

 

CAMPAIGN FINANCE INVESTIGATION

 

- As of June 2000, the Justice Department listed 25 people indicted and 19 convicted because of the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandals.

- According to the House Committee on Government Reform in September 2000, 79 House and Senate witnesses asserted the Fifth Amendment in the course of investigations into Gore's last fundraising campaign.

-James Riady entered a plea agreement to pay an $8.5 million fine for campaign finance crimes. This was a record under campaign finance laws.

 

CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS WERE OBTAINED

 

Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.

 

HISTORICAL CONTEXT

 

- Number of independent counsel inquiries since the 1978 law was passed: 19

- Number that have produced indictments: 7

- Number that produced more convictions than the Starr investigation: 1

- Median length of investigations that led to convictions: 44 months

- Length of Starr-Ray investigation: 69 months.

- Total cost of the Starr investigation (3/00) $52 million

- Total cost of the Iran-Contra investigation: $48.5 million

- Total cost to taxpayers of the Madison Guarantee failure: $73 million

 

OTHER MATTERS INVESTIGATED BY SPECIAL PROSECUTORS AND CONGRESS, OR REPORTED IN THE MEDIA

 

Bank and mail fraud, violations of campaign finance laws, illegal foreign campaign funding, improper exports of sensitive technology, physical violence and threats of violence, solicitation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, bribery of witnesses, attempted intimidation of prosecutors, perjury before congressional committees, lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials, flight of witnesses, obstruction of justice, bribery of cabinet members, real estate fraud, tax fraud, drug trafficking, failure to investigate drug trafficking, bribery of state officials, use of state police for personal purposes, exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors, using state police to provide false court testimony, laundering of drug money through a state agency, false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths, the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates, failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths, providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses, drug abuse, improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files, improper futures trading, murder, sexual abuse of employees, false testimony before a federal judge, shredding of documents, withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents, fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees, inviting drug traffickers, foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.

 

ARKANSAS ALTZHEIMER'S

 

Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

 

Bill Kennedy 116

Harold Ickes 148

Ricki Seidman 160

Bruce Lindsey 161

Bill Burton 191

Mark Gearan 221

Mack McLarty 233

Neil Egglseston 250

Hillary Clinton 250

John Podesta 264

Jennifer O'Connor 343

Dwight Holton 348

Patsy Thomasson 420

Jeff Eller 697

 

FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.

 

I don't remember - 71

I don't know - 62

I'm not sure - 17

I have no idea - 10

I don't believe so - 9

I don't recall - 8

I don't think so - 8

I don't have any specific recollection - 6

I have no recollection - 4

Not to my knowledge - 4

I just don't remember - 4

I don't believe - 4

I have no specific recollection - 3

I might have - 3

I don't have any recollection of that - 2 I don't have a specific memory - 2

I don't have any memory of that - 2

I just can't say - 2

I have no direct knowledge of that - 2

I don't have any idea - 2

Not that I recall - 2

I don't believe I did - 2

I can't remember - 2

I can't say - 2

I do not remember doing so - 2

Not that I remember - 2

I'm not aware - 1

I honestly don't know - 1

I don't believe that I did - 1

I'm fairly sure - 1

I have no other recollection - 1

I'm not positive - 1

I certainly don't think so - 1

I don't really remember - 1

I would have no way of remembering that - 1

That's what I believe happened - 1

To my knowledge, no - 1

To the best of my knowledge - 1

To the best of my memory - 1

I honestly don't recall - 1

I honestly don't remember - 1

That's all I know - 1

I don't have an independent recollection of that - 1

I don't actually have an independent memory of that - 1

As far as I know - 1

I don't believe I ever did that - 1

That's all I know about that - 1

I'm just not sure - 1

Nothing that I remember - 1

I simply don't know - 1

I would have no idea - 1

I don't know anything about that - 1

I don't have any direct knowledge of that - 1

I just don't know - 1

I really don't know - 1

I can't deny that, I just -- I have no memory of that at all - 1

 

ARKANSAS SUDDEN DEATH SYNDROME

 

- Number of persons in the Clinton machine orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 9

- Number known to have been murdered: 12

- Number who died in plane crashes: 6

- Number who died in single car automobile accidents: 3

- Number of one-person sking fatalities: 1

- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1

- Number of unexplained deaths: 4

- Total suspicious deaths: 46

- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30

- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156

 

It is important in considering these fatal incidents to bear in mind the following:

 

The fact that anomalies need to be investigated further carries no presumption of how a death actually occurred, only that there remain serious questions that require answers.

 

The possibility of foul play must be taken seriously in a major criminal conspiracy in which over two score individuals and firms have been convicted and over 100 witnesses have pled the Fifth Amendment or fled the country.

 

If foul play did occur in any of these cases, that fact by itself does not carry the presumption that the the Clinton machine was involved. Given the footprints of organized crime, drug trade, foreign espionage, and intelligence agencies on the trail of the Clinton story, such a assumption would not be warranted. It is also well to keep in mind the classic prohibition era movie in which the corrupt poitician's job was not to engage in illegal acts but to avoid noticing them.

ARKANSAS MONEY MANAGEMENT

 

- Amount of an alleged electronic transfer from the Arkansas Development Financial Authority to a bank in the Cayman Islands during 1980s: $50 million

- Grand Cayman's population: 18,000

- Number of commercial banks: 570

- Number of bank regulators: 1

- Amount Arkansas state pension fund invested in high-risk repos in the mid-80s in one purchase in April 1985: $52 million through the Worthen Bank.

- Number of days thereafter that the state's brokerage firm went belly up: 3

- Amount Arkansas pension fund dropped overnight as a result: 15%

- Percent of Worthen bank that Mochtar Riady bought over the next four months to bail out the bank and the then governor, Bill Clinton: 40%.

- Percent of purchasers from the Clintons and McDougals of resort lots who lost the land because of the sleazy financing provisions: over 50%

 

THE MEDIA

 

- Number of journalists covering Whitewater who have been fired, transferred off the beat, resigned or otherwise gotten into trouble because of their work on the scandals (Doug Frantz, Jim Wooten, Richard Behar, Christopher Ruddy, Michael Isikoff, David Eisenstadt, Yinh Chan, Jonathan Broder, James R. Norman, Zoh Hieronimus): 10

 

FRIENDS OF BILL

 

- Number of times John Huang took the 5th Amendment in answer to questions during a Judicial Watch deposition: 1,000

- Visits made to the White House by investigation subjects Johnny Chung, James Riady, John Huang, and Charlie Trie. 160

- Number of campaign contributors who got overnights at the White House in the two years before the 1996 election: 577

- Number of members of Thomas Boggs's law firm who have held top positions in the Clinton administration. 18

- Number of times John Huang was briefed by CIA: 37

- Number of calls Huang made from Commerce Department to Lippo banks: 261

- Number of intelligence reports Huang read while at Commerce Department: 500

 

UNEXPLAINED PHENOMENA

 

- FBI files misappropriated by the White House: c. 900

- Estimated number of witnesses quoted in FBI files misappropriated by the White House: 18,000

- Number of witnesses who developed medical problems at critical points in Clinton scandals investigation (Tucker, Hale, both McDougals, Lindsey): 5

- Problem areas listed in a memo by Clinton's own lawyer in preparation for the president's defense: 40

- Number of witnesses and critics of Clinton subjected to IRS audit: 45

- Number of names placed in a White House secret database without the knowledge of those named: c. 200,000

- Number of women involved with Clinton who claim to have been physically threatened (Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Juantia Broaddrick): 6

- Number of men involved in the Clinton scandals who have been beaten up or claimed to have been intimidated: 10

 

THE HIDDEN ELECTION

 

USA Today calls it "the hidden election," in which nearly 7,000 state legislative seats are decided with only minimal media and public attention. But there was an important national story here: evidence of the disaster that Bill Clinton was for the Democratic Party. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, Democrats held a 1,542 seat lead in the state bodies in 1990. As of 1998 that lead had shrunk to 288. That's a loss of over 1,200 state legislative seats, nearly all of them under Clinton. Across the US, the Democrats controled only 65 more state senate seats than the Republicans.

 

Further, in 1992, the Democrats controlled 17 more state legislatures than the Republicans. After 1998, the Republicans controlled one more than the Democrats. Not only was this a loss of 9 legislatures under Clinton, but it was the first time since 1954 that the GOP had controlled more state legislatures than the Democrats (they tied in 1968).

 

Here's what happened to the Democrats under Clinton, based on our latest figures:

 

- GOP seats gained in House since Clinton became president: 48

- GOP seats gained in Senate since Clinton became president: 8

- GOP governorships gained since Clinton became president: 11

- GOP state legislative seats gained since Clinton became president: 1,254

as of 1998

- State legislatures taken over by GOP since Clinton became president: 9

- Democrat officeholders who have become Republicans since Clinton became

president: 439 as of 1998

- Republican officeholders who have become Democrats since Clinton became president: 3

 

THE CLINTON LEGACY: LONELY VOICES

 

Here are some of the all too rare public officials, reporters, and others who spoke truth to the dismally corrupt power of Bill and Hill Clinton's political machine -- some at risk to their careers, others at risk to their lives. A few points to note:

 

- Those corporatist media reporters who attempted to report the story often found themselves muzzled; some even lost their jobs. The only major dailies that consistently handled the story well were the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Times.

 

- Nobody on this list has gotten rich and many you may not have even heard of. Taking on the Clintons typically has not been a happy or rewarding experience. At least ten reporters were fired, transferred off their beats, resigned, or otherwise got into trouble because of their work on the scandals.

 

- Contrary to the popular impression, the politics of those listed ranges from the left to the right, and from the ideological to the independent.

 

PUBLIC OFFICIALS

 

MIGUEL RODRIGUEZ was a prosecutor on the staff of Kenneth Starr. His attempts to uncover the truth in the Vincent Foster death case were repeatedly foiled and he was the subject of planted stories undermining his credibility and implying that he was unstable. Rodriguez eventually resigned.

 

JEAN DUFFEY: Head of a joint federal-county drug task force in Arkansas. Her first instructions from her boss: "Jean, you are not to use the drug task force to investigate any public official." Duffey's work, however, led deep into the heart of the Dixie Mafia, including members of the Clinton machine and the investigation of the so-called "train deaths." Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports that when she produced a star witness who could testify to Clinton's involvement with cocaine, the local prosecuting attorney, Dan Harmon issued a subpoena for all the task force records, including "the incriminating files on his own activities. If Duffey had complied it would have exposed 30 witnesses and her confidential informants to violent retributions. She refused." Harmon issued a warrant for her arrest and friendly cops told her that there was a $50,000 price on her head. She eventually fled to Texas. The once-untouchable Harmon was later convicted of racketeering, extortion and drug dealing.

 

BILL DUNCAN: An IRS investigator in Arkansas who drafted some 30 federal indictments of Arkansas figures on money laundering and other charges. Clinton biographer Roger Morris quotes a source who reviewed the evidence: "Those indictments were a real slam dunk if there ever was one." The cases were suppressed, many in the name of "national security." Duncan was never called to testify. Other IRS agents and state police disavowed Duncan and turned on him. Said one source, "Somebody outside ordered it shut down and the walls went up."

 

RUSSELL WELCH: An Arkansas state police detective working with Duncan. Welch developed a 35-volume, 3,000 page archive on drug and money laundering operations at Mena. His investigation was so compromised that a high state police official even let one of the targets of the probe look through the file. At one point, Welch was sprayed in the face with poison, later identified by the Center for Disease Control as anthrax. He would write in his diary, "I feel like I live in Russia, waiting for the secret police to pounce down. A government has gotten out of control. Men find themselves in positions of power and suddenly crimes become legal." Welch is no longer with the state police.

 

DAN SMALTZ: Smaltz did an outstanding job investigating and prosecuting charges involving illegal payoffs to Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy, yet was treated with disparaging and highly inaccurate reporting by the likes of the David Broder and the NY Times. Espy was acquitted under a law that made it necessary to not only prove that he accepted gratuities but that he did something specific in return. On the other hand, Tyson Foods copped a plea in the same case, paying $6 million in fines and serving four years' probation. The charge: that Tyson had illegally offered Espy $12,000 in airplane rides, football tickets and other payoffs. In the Espy investigation, Smaltz obtained 15 convictions and collected over $11 million in fines and civil penalties. Offenses for which convictions were obtained included false statements, concealing money from prohibited sources, illegal gratuities, illegal contributions, falsifying records, interstate transportation of stolen property, money laundering, and illegal receipt of USDA subsidies. In addition, Janet Reno blocked Smaltz from pursuing leads aimed at allegations of major drug trafficking in Arkansas and payoffs to the then governor of the state, WJ Clinton. Espy had become Ag secretary only after being flown to Arkansas to get the approval of chicken king Don Tyson.

 

DAVID SCHIPPERS was House impeachment counsel and a Chicago Democrat. He did a highly creditable job but since he didn't fit the right-wing conspiracy theory, the Clintonista media downplayed his work. Thus most Americans don't know that he told Newsmax, "Let me tell you, if we had a chance to put on a case, I would have put live witnesses before the committee. But the House leadership, and I'm not talking about Henry Hyde, they just killed us as far as time was concerned. I begged them to let me take it into this year. Then I screamed for witnesses before the Senate. But there was nothing anybody could do to get those Senators to show any courage. They told us essentially, you're not going to get 67 votes so why are you wasting our time." Schippers also said that while a number of representatives had looked at additional evidence kept under seal in a nearby House building, not a single senator did.

 

JOHN CLARKE: When Patrick Knowlton stopped to relieve himself in Ft. Marcy Park 70 minutes before the discovery of Vince Foster's body, he saw things that got him into deep trouble. His interview statements were falsified and prior to testifying he claims he was overtly harassed by more than a score of men in a classic witness intimidation technique. In some cases there were witnesses. John Clarke was his dogged lawyer in the witness intimidation case that was largely ignored by the media, even when the three-judge panel overseeing the Starr investigation permitted Knowlton to append a 20 page addendum to the Starr Report.

 

OTHER

 

THE ARKANSAS COMMITTEE: What would later be known as the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy actually began on the left - as a group of progressive students at the University of Arkansas had formed the Arkansas Committee to look into Mena, drugs, money laundering, and Arkansas politics. This committee was the source of some of the important early Clinton stories including those published in the Progressive Review.

 

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SCANDALS E-LIST: Moderated by Ray Heizer, this list was subject to all the idiosyncrasies of Internet bulletin boards, but nonetheless proved invaluable to researchers and journalists.

 

JOURNALISTS

 

JERRY SEPER of the Washington Times was far and away the best beat reporter of the story, handling it week after week in the best tradition of investigative journalism. If other reporters had followed Seper's lead, the history of the Clintons' machine might have been quite different.

 

AMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD of the London Telegraph did a remarkable job of digging into some of the seamiest tales from Arkansas and the Clinton past. Other early arrivals on the scene were Alexander Cockburn and Jeff Gerth.

 

CHRISTOPHER RUDDY, among other fine reports on the Clinton scandals, did the best job laying out the facts in the Vince Foster death case.

 

ROGER MORRIS AND SALLY DENTON wrote a major expose of events at Mena, but at the last moment the Washington Post's brass ordered the story killed. It was published by Penthouse and later included in Morris' "Partners in Power," the best biography of the Clintons.

 

OTHERS who helped get parts of the story out included reporters Philip Weiss, Carl Limbacher, Wes Phelan, David Bresnahan, William Sammon, Liza Myers, Mara Leveritt, Matt Drudge, Jim Ridgeway, Nat Hentoff, Michael Isikoff, Christopher Hitchens and Michael Kelly. Also independent investigator Hugh Sprunt and former White House FBI agent Gary Aldrich.

 

SAM SMITH of the Progressive Review wrote the first book (Shadows of Hope, University of Indiana Press, 1994) deconstructing the Clinton myth. The Review provided extensive coverage of the topic.

 

 

 

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I am curious to what you could possibly do in 1 hour for 5 grand that your wife couldnt of done better and for free....

 

 

From what I read, he was into some acts that probably would not go over well with the lady Spitzer.

What a scum and he now gets to explain this to his daughters. Classy Elliot. Thank you.

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Categorizing people and their behavior by political party is borderline retarded....c'mon people. Don't you know people of both parties? Aren't they just AMERICANS?????????????

It is just beyond dumb to think that all Democrats are evil and all Republicans are saints or vice versa. There are good decent and honest people on ends of the political spectrum....just none of them are elected officials (just kidding....kind of).

 

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The Bush affairs

 

There is no shortage of stories on the Internet about alleged extramarital affairs involving the Bush clan. But for whatever reason, including that the media was owned by conservatives, they were not popularly known.

 

Besides the Schoedinger case, Bush Jr. was linked to a 39-year-old Texas woman, Tammy Phillips. The former stripper was quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an 18-month affair with Bush that had ended in June 1999, while Bush campaigned for the presidency. 7

 

Phillips said she was introduced to then-Texas Gov. Bush by her Republican uncle in Dec. 1997 during a political event in Midland, Tx. She said that she and Bush, who married Laura Bush two decades before, made “passionate love” that very day.

 

However, that raised a red flag right there. I can’t see the attention-challenged Bush making “passionate love” to anyone, unless such was defined as lasting ten seconds or less. The Enquirer also said that the uncle disputed introducing Bush and Phillips, who I could not reach for comment.

 

According to the story, Bush and Phillips had sex eight more times, including a Best Western motel room in Houston. “It was simply sex,” she told the Enquirer. “It was the cheapest relationship you can imagine.” Now that I can believe.

 

Another story was told to me by a Texas woman who said Bush Jr. followed her around the HemisFair, an international festival in 1968 in San Antonio, when he was 22 and she was but 14.

 

“I was mature for my age,” she said. “He approached me and insisted I drink some beer. He apparently wanted me to get drunk. I told him I was underaged, and he said if the cops came, we wouldn’t get in trouble because of who he was. He knew I was underaged and finally left me alone.”

 

Then there were the reports about the gay affair between Bush and former college roommate and fellow Bonesman Victor Ashe. That was covered in the first chapter of this book. 8

 

Who can forget Bush telling right-wing FOX broadcaster Brit Hume in 2003 that he had a “beautiful face?” That was a lie in itself – Hume looks more like a sour-faced bulldog. A Canadian newspaper also reported that in January 2004 Bush had nothing better to do at an international conference than tell Scott Reid, an aide to Prime Minister Paul Martin, that he had a “pretty face” and was a “good-looking guy. Better looking than my Scott [McClellan] anyway.” 9

 

Then, Betty Bowers pointedly and hilariously wrote about Bush’s overuse of the word, “fabulous.” The press reported most comments as a joke, but the frequency of such comments made one wonder – if not about Bush’s sexual orientation, then about his shallowness. 10

 

There were more stories about Bush’s brothers, Jeb and Neil.

 

Jeb Bush reportedly had an affair with Cynthia Henderson, a former Playboy bunny who he put in charge of the Florida Department of Management Services at a salary of $114,000 a year in 1999. Bush also appointed Henderson to run the Department of Business and Professional Regulation in 1999.

 

But he had to transfer her after a state ethics investigation into her accepting personal favors - including a private plane ride to the Kentucky Derby - from Outback Steakhouse, a company her office was supposed to regulate. Henderson also reportedly helped obtain state jobs for her nanny and the nanny’s boyfriend, and she was also sued by a state employee who alleged that Henderson grabbed him by the throat and threatened to choke him to death. 11

 

While some Bush advisors and newspapers called on Henderson to be fired, Bush refused and publicly denied in May 2001 that he had as much as been in a room alone with Henderson after mostly alternative media published the allegations. Unlike with Clinton, Condit, and other Democrats like potential 1988 presidential candidate Gary Hart, the major media did not aggressively pursue the story and check out whether Bush was telling the truth. In former Sen. Hart’s case, the media even staked out his Washington home to report an alleged affair he had with model Donna Rice. As late as 1998, Hart called the media frenzy surrounding him “fascist.” 12

 

Contrast that treatment with what The Washington Post did after learning that Democratic Maryland Gov. Parris Glendening supposedly had sex with Jennifer Crawford, his unmarried chief of staff, while he was separated from his wife. The Post put two reporters to spy on Glendening and Crawford and reported in Sept. 2001 that Glendening eased out of Crawford’s home early on a few mornings that summer.

 

There were several problems with the story, such as there was no regulation prohibiting state employees from sleeping with each other, the Baltimore City Paper reported. “This was a sleazy intrusion into the governor’s personal life, sleazily delivered, and for sleazy motives,” Wiley Hall III wrote in the Baltimore publication. “The only ones who emerged from this affair with dignity intact were the governor, who had his aides declare ‘no comment’ and refused thereafter to be baited, and the people of Maryland, who reacted to the message with the collective yawn it deserved.” 13

 

Meanwhile, did The Post or any other media outlet put such time and resources into catching Jeb and Cynthia? Are you kidding? As Online Journal columnist Sally Slate wrote in July 2001, “Isn’t the silence of the so-called mainstream media - you know, the folks who could not get enough of ‘all Monica, all the time’ and who are now obsessing over ‘all Condit, all the time’ - interesting in light of all the Jeb-Henderson stories making the rounds in Florida? Of course, when it comes to Republicans, these are just ‘youthful indiscretions,’ after all Gov. Bush is under 50. If he were a Democrat, well, just ask Rep. Condit.” 14

 

Slate wrote about an anecdote that could easily be checked out - how Bush reportedly used $1,900 in taxpayers’ money to replace a bed that he said broke while his wife was away. 15

 

Retired U.S. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Al Martin, author of The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider, wrote in his Internet column, Al Martin Raw, that Jeb Bush had been videotaped by an FBI surveillance camera at the 2001 Super Bowl in Tampa with Henderson. Martin also wrote that Henderson was seeking money to keep quiet about the alleged affair. 16

 

Martin said Henderson also worked for Neil Bush in the 1980s when he was running a Florida real estate company and might know something about the Bush brothers that kept her employed in the cushy Florida job. Martin also wrote that all of the Bush brothers were known adulterers. 17

 

To help keep the media from doing serious investigation into this alleged affair, Jeb’s mafia reportedly threatened Vanity Fair, the supermarket tabloid The Globe, and WPOW-FM’s Bo Griffin, who received a “spooky” call from the governor’s office demanding to know her source. Most media, however, needed no such calls to stay away from the story. 18

 

But the media could not overlook the obvious affairs of Neil Bush - check this in the New York Daily News from Bush’s deposition in his divorce case against former wife Sharon Bush in 2003:

 

Neil Bush: “I had sexual intercourse with perhaps three or four, I don’t remember the exact number, women, at different times. In Thailand once, I have a pretty clear recollection that there was one time in Thailand and in Hong Kong.”

Marshall Davis Brown, Sharon Bush’s attorney: “And you were married to Mrs. Bush?”

Bush: “Yes.”

Brown: “Is that where you caught the venereal diseases?”

Bush: “No.”

Brown: “Where did you catch those?”

Bush: “Diseases plural? I didn’t catch...”

Brown: “Well, I’m sorry. How ... how many venereal diseases do you suffer from?”

Bush: “I’ve had one venereal disease.”

Brown: “Which was?”

Bush: “Herpes.”

Brown: “Did you pay them for that sex?”

Bush: “No, I did not.”

Brown: “Pick them up in a sushi house?”

Bush: “No. ... My recollection is, where I can recall, they came to my room.”

 

Sharon Bush also said that Maria Andrews’s young child was Neil’s, a claim Andrews denied. Neil Bush and Andrews got engaged in 2003. 19

 

The press at least mentioned reports of Bush Sr. having a long-time affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald, a former aide that Bush reportedly helped rise through the ranks. Among those printing the allegation in 1988 or 1992 were The Boston Globe, Philadelphia Daily News, New York Post, and Columbia Journalism Review. 20

 

The right-wing site NewsMax even said that Clinton foe Linda Tripp knew about and spread the Bush-Fitzgerald connection. “To the Bushes [Tripp] is the one who exposed their own scandalous behavior and subsequent cover-up,” NewsMax wrote. 21

 

For some odd reason that came down to wimping out, Democrats never capitalized on these affairs. The 1988 presidential campaign of Democrat Michael Dukakis actually fired Donna Brazile for merely trying to get reporters to look into the reports that Bush Sr. had an affair. Meanwhile, Republican operatives were rewarded financially for spreading such rumors about prominent Democrats. And Democrats kept scratching their heads, wondering why they lost elections when they were afraid to really fight back.

 

The affairs of Reagan and the conservatives who went after Clinton

 

Ronald Reagan was revered by conservatives - even to the

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LAUGHABLE

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