Guest Guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Just another story being feed to the public hoping to swing another mind or two over to the idiotic thinking of the main stream medias liberal agenda. And for you brain dead liberals that would like to argue that fact the out and out lie told in this reporters story refutes any brain dead thought you might try to defend this story with. LAT Constructs False Cheney 'Tortured People' Quote In one of the most egregious examples of MSM bias I've seen lately, Tim Rutten of the L.A.Times has blatantly lied about remarks that Vice President Cheney made at CPAC in a February 8th piece headlined "Bush's message for McCain." Rutten makes the outrageous claim that Cheney said he was "glad the administration had tortured people" during the Conservative Political Action Conference, but a review of the transcript of Cheney's remarks easily shows that this is not what he said at all. Rutten simply reorders the VP's words to get his desired meaning quite despite what was really said. Here is what Rutten wrote on the 8th: Meanwhile, in another part of the city, Vice President Dick Cheney was addressing the meat-eaters at the Conservative Political Action Conference. He told them that he was glad the administration had tortured people and that he'd do it again: "Would I support those same decisions again today? You're damn right I would." Over at Patterico's Pontifications, however, we get the real words Cheney spoke at CPAC. The United States is a country that takes human rights seriously. We do not torture -- it’s against our laws and against our values. We’re proud of our country and what it stands for. We expect all of those who serve America to conduct themselves with honor. And we enforce those rules. Some years ago, when abuses were committed at Abu Ghraib prison, a facility that had nothing to do with the CIA program, the abuses that came to light were, in fact, investigated, and those responsible were prosecuted. Mr. Cheney is obviously proud of the country, but he stressed that we do not torture. There is no passage where he said that we "torture people" and that he is "glad" that we do it. Not one such passage occurred in the Vice President's remarks. So, where is it that Cheney said he was glad we tortured and he'd do it again, Mr. Rutten? How the heck did you misconstrue that claim? The only way that Rutten could have gotten a support of torture out of what Cheney said is to splice another section of Cheney's speech to Rutten's own interpretation that this country does torture people. Here is that section (my emphasis): From the very morning our nation was attacked on 9/11, the President of the United States has had to make some immensely enormous decisions. Every day he faces responsibilities that others would pale before. I’ve been there with him. I’ve seen him make the tough calls, and then weather the criticism and take the hits. President Bush has been tough and courageous. He’s made the right decisions for the right reasons, and he always reflects the best values of the American people. I’ve been proud to stand by him and by the decisions he’s made. And I would support those same -- and would I support those same decisions again today? You’re damn right I would. (Applause.) Here the VP is saying that he would make the same decisions he made again, that he is proud of the Administration's actions. So, yes, the VP did say "You're damn right" that he'd make those decisions again, but no where did he link that surety to an admission that he was "glad" he "tortured people." As Patterico says, "Rutten has told a lie. And he should be called on the carpet for it." I couldn't agree more. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Yea not surprised that you libs haven't posted on this subject it is how you operate. Caught in a bold face lie just ignore it and move along with your agenda. This story is just a example of the propaganda that has been spewed by the media for 6 years. Say what you want to be fact damn with the truth of the material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Yea not surprised that you libs haven't posted on this subject it is how you operate. Caught in a bold face lie just ignore it and move along with your agenda. This story is just a example of the propaganda that has been spewed by the media for 6 years. Say what you want to be fact damn with the truth of the material. It appears more that it wasn't a quote but a paraphrase. Cheney would be happy to do it again, essentially meaning he was happy we tortured people. It wasn't a direct quote, but, it sure did hit the nail on the head for Cheney's meaning. Just a question, would any of you volunteer for an experimental waterboarding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Impeach the coward. What does he know of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 updated 5:23 p.m. ET, Tues., May. 11, 2004 GENEVA - Intelligence officers of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq estimated that 70 percent to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake, the Red Cross said in a report that was disclosed Monday, and Red Cross observers witnessed U.S. officers mistreating Abu Ghraib prisoners by keeping them naked in total darkness in empty cells. Abuse was, “in some cases, tantamount to torture,” it said. The report supports allegations by the International Committee of the Red Cross that abuse of prisoners by U.S. soldiers was broad and “not individual acts” — contrary to President Bush’s contention that the mistreatment “was the wrongdoing of a few.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The West Sider Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I got a great idea. Why don't we discuss it at a Binghamton City Council meeting. Now that would be symbolic! TWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Newsbusters Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Guess what? Nothing but another useless and baseless "Neeeeews"busters story!! Warner Todd Huston does his best "It depends on what the meaning of torture is" bending over for Cheney. It puts "the meaning of is..is" to shame!!" Remember....we spot the poop so you don't step into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Newsbusters Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Guess what? Nothing but another useless and baseless "Neeeeews"busters story!! Warner Todd Huston does his best "It depends on what the meaning of torture is" bending over for Cheney. It puts "the meaning of is..is" to shame!!" Remember....we spot the poop so you don't step into it! Sorry....we forgot the link; http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-h...t-vp-never-said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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