Ed Arzouian Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 The PSB has front page story on late water payments Big deal. The late fees are not the problem. It is all a smoke screen for Ryan and Abdelazim to hide behind.. Calvin Stovall, Executive Editor of this newspaper, told me last Friday The City of Binghamton General Fund prepays the delinquent water bills from the General Fund to the Water Fund and then the General Fund pockets all the Broome County check for the delinquent accounts. That would include the late fees and penalties as well. (read that again so it is clear, the City makes money by loaning the water payments to the Water fund, Broome County helps them) Isn't that true, Calvin? Why won’t you print it? The problem is the City drawing down on the Water Fund with bogus charges to the tune of $700,000per year every year. They will take more if there is more in the Water Fund. That is why Matthew T. Ryan wants to raise rates. The City of Binghamton rips the Water fund off for charges like $5000 in fees to the Corporate Council Ken Franks’ time (the City of Binghamton Corporate Council who lives in Vestal) , or $50,000 for computer fees, more for computer upgrades when those are being paid for with a capital improve bond and excessive rent. The Water fund is a cash cow Ryan and Abdelazim are milking dry to cover up their waste and mismanagement elsewhere. It they didn’t raid the Water Fund they would have to raise taxes even more than they have and will. The late payments have nothing to do with the 81% increase, the eighty-one percent inncrease the Press & Sun-Bulletin never mentions out loud ($1.65 Dec. ’06 to $2.99 Aug, ’09). We are not getting the real story. Yu cannot believe this newspaper. You cannot believe Abdelazim and Ryan (The Regency Hotel deal proved that) NYS Comptroller DiNapoli should audit the City 's books and those of the Water Department. He has already been requested to do so. The Press & Sun-Bulletin will not report that even though they have the request). Maybe he can explain why we are told there are a only $300,000 deficit and a$100,000 increase in chemical costs but we are facing a rate increase that will net a surplus of $2,300,000 (two million, three hundred thousand) each and every year. It took three years to strip the water fund (most of that thanks to Ryan), why do we have to rebuild it in less than one year? Do you pay off your mortgage in less than a year? What aren't Abdelazim and Matthew T. Ryan not telling us? Last week we heard City Comptroller Jon Cox was going to study other towns. Will he only use the worse policies and highest rates he finds or the best policy and reasonable rates? Here are a few: Endicott $35 $1.21 $0.88 discount for greater consumption. ($0.88 compared to Binghamton’s proposed $2.99, are you feeling the pain yet????) Elmira $3.07, $2.23 $.84 less than their residential rates a 27% discount Rochester $0.97 $0.83 discount for greater consumption Watertown $1.52 Utica (Mohawk Valley Water Authority) $2.21~ $2.24~ $1.41~* discount for greater consumption Cortland $2.00 $1.30 $1.50 Johnson City $20.00 $1.68 $1.55 discount for greater consumption Syracuse $2.02 Conklin $2.55 discount for greater consumption Mayor Matthew T. Ryan likes to tell us Binghamton is open for business. Is it really? Let's see if Binghamton will then follow the example of about half the other water departments in New York State that offer institutional and industrial rate reductions. After all, isn't decreasing consumption said to be part of the problem? Will the City of Binghamton charge more for the direct water sales at the plant to tanker trucks, they're said to be giving away that water fro next to nothing. Then there is the sweet deal the asphalt company has locked in for 20 years. Sure people are asking about and worried about the late payments, that’s only because nobody, certainly not this newspaper of the Mayor, are giving them the real story. Demand they tell you the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 When will the Press & Sun-Bulletin print the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 The PSB has front page story on late water payments Big deal. The late fees are not the problem. It is all a smoke screen for Ryan and Abdelazim to hide behind.. Calvin Stovall, Executive Editor of this newspaper, told me last Friday The City of Binghamton General Fund prepays the delinquent water bills from the General Fund to the Water Fund and then the General Fund pockets all the Broome County check for the delinquent accounts. That would include the late fees and penalties as well. (read that again so it is clear, the City makes money by loaning the water payments to the Water fund, Broome County helps them) Isn't that true, Calvin? Why won’t you print it? The problem is the City drawing down on the Water Fund with bogus charges to the tune of $700,000per year every year. They will take more if there is more in the Water Fund. That is why Matthew T. Ryan wants to raise rates. The City of Binghamton rips the Water fund off for charges like $5000 in fees to the Corporate Council Ken Franks’ time (the City of Binghamton Corporate Council who lives in Vestal) , or $50,000 for computer fees, more for computer upgrades when those are being paid for with a capital improve bond and excessive rent. The Water fund is a cash cow Ryan and Abdelazim are milking dry to cover up their waste and mismanagement elsewhere. It they didn’t raid the Water Fund they would have to raise taxes even more than they have and will. The late payments have nothing to do with the 81% increase, the eighty-one percent inncrease the Press & Sun-Bulletin never mentions out loud ($1.65 Dec. ’06 to $2.99 Aug, ’09). We are not getting the real story. Yu cannot believe this newspaper. You cannot believe Abdelazim and Ryan (The Regency Hotel deal proved that) NYS Comptroller DiNapoli should audit the City 's books and those of the Water Department. He has already been requested to do so. The Press & Sun-Bulletin will not report that even though they have the request). Maybe he can explain why we are told there are a only $300,000 deficit and a$100,000 increase in chemical costs but we are facing a rate increase that will net a surplus of $2,300,000 (two million, three hundred thousand) each and every year. It took three years to strip the water fund (most of that thanks to Ryan), why do we have to rebuild it in less than one year? Do you pay off your mortgage in less than a year? What aren't Abdelazim and Matthew T. Ryan not telling us? Last week we heard City Comptroller Jon Cox was going to study other towns. Will he only use the worse policies and highest rates he finds or the best policy and reasonable rates? Here are a few: Endicott $35 $1.21 $0.88 discount for greater consumption. ($0.88 compared to Binghamton’s proposed $2.99, are you feeling the pain yet????) Elmira $3.07, $2.23 $.84 less than their residential rates a 27% discount Rochester $0.97 $0.83 discount for greater consumption Watertown $1.52 Utica (Mohawk Valley Water Authority) $2.21~ $2.24~ $1.41~* discount for greater consumption Cortland $2.00 $1.30 $1.50 Johnson City $20.00 $1.68 $1.55 discount for greater consumption Syracuse $2.02 Conklin $2.55 discount for greater consumption Mayor Matthew T. Ryan likes to tell us Binghamton is open for business. Is it really? Let's see if Binghamton will then follow the example of about half the other water departments in New York State that offer institutional and industrial rate reductions. After all, isn't decreasing consumption said to be part of the problem? Will the City of Binghamton charge more for the direct water sales at the plant to tanker trucks, they're said to be giving away that water fro next to nothing. Then there is the sweet deal the asphalt company has locked in for 20 years. Sure people are asking about and worried about the late payments, that’s only because nobody, certainly not this newspaper of the Mayor, are giving them the real story. Demand they tell you the truth. Ed you have no clue what you are talking about. Follow the money dimwit. The city rolls 1 million to tax bills, that includes the CITY late fees. Water fund is credited 1 million. County sends to City two installments of 500,000. That's a wash you moron. Whatever extra charges and fees the COUNTY assesses, THEY KEEP THAT MONEY. You need valium, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Ed you have no clue what you are talking about. Follow the money dimwit. The city rolls 1 million to tax bills, that includes the CITY late fees. Water fund is credited 1 million. County sends to City two installments of 500,000. That's a wash you moron. Whatever extra charges and fees the COUNTY assesses, THEY KEEP THAT MONEY. You need valium, bro. Taking valium before math class won't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Ed you have no clue what you are talking about. Follow the money dimwit. The city rolls 1 million to tax bills, that includes the CITY late fees. Water fund is credited 1 million. County sends to City two installments of 500,000. That's a wash you moron. Whatever extra charges and fees the COUNTY assesses, THEY KEEP THAT MONEY. You need valium, bro. Sorry, it is you that has no clue. Apparently the City uses money from the General Fund to pay the Water Department up front for late water bills. Nobody knows why. The City then collects a check for taxes and the late water bills twice a year from the County. We do not know where all the fees go. If the City pays the Water Department up front why would the Water Department care about late bills? If the City gets the money back from the County plus fees and penalites and interest why is this late billing such a probelm. It isn't problem. It is a all a smoke screen to shift the focus off what really happens at the Water Department and how Ryan and Abdelazim are milking it dry with bogus charge to the tune of $700,000 per year. Precisely because this is all so complicated and unclear is why the NY State Comptroller shoul dinvestigate and audit the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Sorry, it is you that has no clue. Apparently the City uses money from the General Fund to pay the Water Department up front for late water bills. Nobody knows why. The City then collects a check for taxes and the late water bills twice a year from the County. We do not know where all the fees go. If the City pays the Water Department up front why would the Water Department care about late bills? If the City gets the money back from the County plus fees and penalites and interest why is this late billing such a probelm. It isn't problem. It is a all a smoke screen to shift the focus off what really happens at the Water Department and how Ryan and Abdelazim are milking it dry with bogus charge to the tune of $700,000 per year. Precisely because this is all so complicated and unclear is why the NY State Comptroller shoul dinvestigate and audit the books. I am sure they will jump right on that ed. they take everything you say so seriously. by the way, when will the votes be recounted? when will voter fraud charges be filed? when will citizen action lose their tax status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Why do you want to pay an 81% increase? Explain that to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Why do you want to pay an 81% increase? Explain that to us. I did not see anyone say they want to. Can you show us where that is? Just because we all know you are a whack - does not mean we wish to pay an 81% increase. @ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 What point are you arguing then? If you oppose the 81% increase say so. Then maybe do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 The PSB has front page story on late water payments Big deal. The late fees are not the problem. It is all a smoke screen for Ryan and Abdelazim to hide behind.. Calvin Stovall, Executive Editor of this newspaper, told me last Friday The City of Binghamton General Fund prepays the delinquent water bills from the General Fund to the Water Fund and then the General Fund pockets all the Broome County check for the delinquent accounts. That would include the late fees and penalties as well. (read that again so it is clear, the City makes money by loaning the water payments to the Water fund, Broome County helps them) Isn't that true, Calvin? Why won’t you print it? The problem is the City drawing down on the Water Fund with bogus charges to the tune of $700,000per year every year. They will take more if there is more in the Water Fund. That is why Matthew T. Ryan wants to raise rates. The City of Binghamton rips the Water fund off for charges like $5000 in fees to the Corporate Council Ken Franks’ time (the City of Binghamton Corporate Council who lives in Vestal) , or $50,000 for computer fees, more for computer upgrades when those are being paid for with a capital improve bond and excessive rent. The Water fund is a cash cow Ryan and Abdelazim are milking dry to cover up their waste and mismanagement elsewhere. It they didn’t raid the Water Fund they would have to raise taxes even more than they have and will. The late payments have nothing to do with the 81% increase, the eighty-one percent inncrease the Press & Sun-Bulletin never mentions out loud ($1.65 Dec. ’06 to $2.99 Aug, ’09). We are not getting the real story. Yu cannot believe this newspaper. You cannot believe Abdelazim and Ryan (The Regency Hotel deal proved that) NYS Comptroller DiNapoli should audit the City 's books and those of the Water Department. He has already been requested to do so. The Press & Sun-Bulletin will not report that even though they have the request). Maybe he can explain why we are told there are a only $300,000 deficit and a$100,000 increase in chemical costs but we are facing a rate increase that will net a surplus of $2,300,000 (two million, three hundred thousand) each and every year. It took three years to strip the water fund (most of that thanks to Ryan), why do we have to rebuild it in less than one year? Do you pay off your mortgage in less than a year? What aren't Abdelazim and Matthew T. Ryan not telling us? Last week we heard City Comptroller Jon Cox was going to study other towns. Will he only use the worse policies and highest rates he finds or the best policy and reasonable rates? Here are a few: Endicott $35 $1.21 $0.88 discount for greater consumption. ($0.88 compared to Binghamton’s proposed $2.99, are you feeling the pain yet????) Elmira $3.07, $2.23 $.84 less than their residential rates a 27% discount Rochester $0.97 $0.83 discount for greater consumption Watertown $1.52 Utica (Mohawk Valley Water Authority) $2.21~ $2.24~ $1.41~* discount for greater consumption Cortland $2.00 $1.30 $1.50 Johnson City $20.00 $1.68 $1.55 discount for greater consumption Syracuse $2.02 Conklin $2.55 discount for greater consumption Mayor Matthew T. Ryan likes to tell us Binghamton is open for business. Is it really? Let's see if Binghamton will then follow the example of about half the other water departments in New York State that offer institutional and industrial rate reductions. After all, isn't decreasing consumption said to be part of the problem? Will the City of Binghamton charge more for the direct water sales at the plant to tanker trucks, they're said to be giving away that water fro next to nothing. Then there is the sweet deal the asphalt company has locked in for 20 years. Sure people are asking about and worried about the late payments, that’s only because nobody, certainly not this newspaper of the Mayor, are giving them the real story. Demand they tell you the truth. shut up ed. ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 The PSB has front page story on late water payments Big deal. The late fees are not the problem. It is all a smoke screen for Ryan and Abdelazim to hide behind.. Calvin Stovall, Executive Editor of this newspaper, told me last Friday The City of Binghamton General Fund prepays the delinquent water bills from the General Fund to the Water Fund and then the General Fund pockets all the Broome County check for the delinquent accounts. That would include the late fees and penalties as well. (read that again so it is clear, the City makes money by loaning the water payments to the Water fund, Broome County helps them) Isn't that true, Calvin? Why won’t you print it? The problem is the City drawing down on the Water Fund with bogus charges to the tune of $700,000per year every year. They will take more if there is more in the Water Fund. That is why Matthew T. Ryan wants to raise rates. The City of Binghamton rips the Water fund off for charges like $5000 in fees to the Corporate Council Ken Franks’ time (the City of Binghamton Corporate Council who lives in Vestal) , or $50,000 for computer fees, more for computer upgrades when those are being paid for with a capital improve bond and excessive rent. The Water fund is a cash cow Ryan and Abdelazim are milking dry to cover up their waste and mismanagement elsewhere. It they didn’t raid the Water Fund they would have to raise taxes even more than they have and will. The late payments have nothing to do with the 81% increase, the eighty-one percent inncrease the Press & Sun-Bulletin never mentions out loud ($1.65 Dec. ’06 to $2.99 Aug, ’09). We are not getting the real story. Yu cannot believe this newspaper. You cannot believe Abdelazim and Ryan (The Regency Hotel deal proved that) NYS Comptroller DiNapoli should audit the City 's books and those of the Water Department. He has already been requested to do so. The Press & Sun-Bulletin will not report that even though they have the request). Maybe he can explain why we are told there are a only $300,000 deficit and a$100,000 increase in chemical costs but we are facing a rate increase that will net a surplus of $2,300,000 (two million, three hundred thousand) each and every year. It took three years to strip the water fund (most of that thanks to Ryan), why do we have to rebuild it in less than one year? Do you pay off your mortgage in less than a year? What aren't Abdelazim and Matthew T. Ryan not telling us? Last week we heard City Comptroller Jon Cox was going to study other towns. Will he only use the worse policies and highest rates he finds or the best policy and reasonable rates? Here are a few: Endicott $35 $1.21 $0.88 discount for greater consumption. ($0.88 compared to Binghamton’s proposed $2.99, are you feeling the pain yet????) Elmira $3.07, $2.23 $.84 less than their residential rates a 27% discount Rochester $0.97 $0.83 discount for greater consumption Watertown $1.52 Utica (Mohawk Valley Water Authority) $2.21~ $2.24~ $1.41~* discount for greater consumption Cortland $2.00 $1.30 $1.50 Johnson City $20.00 $1.68 $1.55 discount for greater consumption Syracuse $2.02 Conklin $2.55 discount for greater consumption Mayor Matthew T. Ryan likes to tell us Binghamton is open for business. Is it really? Let's see if Binghamton will then follow the example of about half the other water departments in New York State that offer institutional and industrial rate reductions. After all, isn't decreasing consumption said to be part of the problem? Will the City of Binghamton charge more for the direct water sales at the plant to tanker trucks, they're said to be giving away that water fro next to nothing. Then there is the sweet deal the asphalt company has locked in for 20 years. Sure people are asking about and worried about the late payments, that’s only because nobody, certainly not this newspaper of the Mayor, are giving them the real story. Demand they tell you the truth. You are a MORON!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 "Shut up" and "You are a moron", that's the best you can do! Can you explain at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 They have already provided a detailed explanation of their facts with charts, graphs, and various statistics. Didn't you see their post two weeks ago? I think it was titled "Hi, I'm a bull crap talking Ryan puppet". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 They have already provided a detailed explanation of their facts with charts, graphs, and various statistics. Didn't you see their post two weeks ago? I think it was titled "Hi, I'm a bull crap talking Ryan puppet". It might not be enough. I've heard the Corporate Council has had to answer a few questions from the County and the news media. The County and the City wil be meeting shortly. Apparently they have many of the same questions for the City that we do. Ryan has really stepped in it this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 eventually it is going to catch up with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 What point are you arguing then? If you oppose the 81% increase say so. Then maybe do something about it. You know - these two statements can both be true at the same time. 1) ed is an idot - obsessed with the mayor 2) I do not support an 81% increase in water rates. @ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Arzouian Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 You know - these two statements can both be true at the same time. 1) ed is an idot - obsessed with the mayor 2) I do not support an 81% increase in water rates. @ So what are you doing to contest the rate increase? Are you just bending over and taking it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 So what are you doing to contest the rate increase? Are you just bending over and taking it? Nope we share alot of feelings about the mayor ed and about his policies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 except you do nothing to change them so you deserve whatever you get..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 except you do nothing to change them so you deserve whatever you get..... Not true - I do alot. I am simply not an obsessed assshole like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Can you tell us what you have done, specifically, or will this be like the listof accomplishmentsof Matthew T. Ryan that nobody can produce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I thought that might stump you...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 If you would like to review the Water Department budget you can find it at: http://www.cityofbinghamton.com/library/pa...ed%20Budget.pdf The pages pertaining to the water department begin on Page 108 of 148 in the PDF file (Page 103 in the hard copy) They end on Page 121 of 148 in the PDF file (Page 117 in the hard copy). It makes for some interesting reading if you can decipher the codewords used to hide what's really going on. Look under "Contractual services" those are all things the City charge the Water Fund, like almost $8000 for Binghamton Corporate Council Ken Franks (who lives in Vestal) . Given that figure Mr. Franks should be spending about one full day every work week working for the Water Deparrtment. Do you really think he does that? Those chemical that went up $100,000, they went to $360,000. According to Mayor Mathew T. Ryan that is why he has to raise an additonal $2,200,000 PER YEAR EVER YEAR. Look at the debt service a whopping $2,400,000 (two-million four-hundred thousand)! $14,000 for data processing.... Professional Service for Transmission of water $7000. No idea what kind of service that is.... Professional Servies in Administration $18,000.... Collection Service $57,000???? Doesn't the County do the collections to save that????? Accounting services $41,000 It just goes on and on, every type of charge possible from the City to the Water fund. No explanations, just charge after charge. They are bleeding it dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 RYAN IS A FRAUD CLEAR AND SIMPLE!! IF WE COULD LOOK AT HIS PERSONEL FINANCES ILL BET HES IN DEEP. THIS GUY COULDNT LEAD A CUB SCOUT TROOP AND YOU GAVE HIM THE KEY TO A CITY! YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 RYAN IS A FRAUD CLEAR AND SIMPLE!! IF WE COULD LOOK AT HIS PERSONEL FINANCES ILL BET HES IN DEEP. THIS GUY COULDNT LEAD A CUB SCOUT TROOP AND YOU GAVE HIM THE KEY TO A CITY! YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR ! oh yea investigations will be done!!!!!!! no they wont - just kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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