Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Weakest field possibly ever. ME and SV in National Bracket? Give me a break! Binghamton Patriots didn't want to play in Nationals I hear. Didn't want more losses. This tourney is usually decent (no where near what it once was....) but no big name players or teams at all this year. Too bad, I look forward to this usually but it looks weaker than ever this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Only SV is in the national.. Pretty big teams are coming however? Not sure where you got those ideas from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 No, original post was correct, ME and SV were put in National after Canuck teams backed out but they took them both out and put them back in regionals. No big named players coming in this year, some decent teams but less talent than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Unfortunately, the cost of going to the STOP DWI is getting too high. How many families can afford to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Milton Weisserman Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Unfortunately, the cost of going to the STOP DWI is getting too high. How many families can afford to go? I for one won't pay the exorbitant ticket prices for high school basketball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Rice Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 You guys are sadly mistaken. The #1 player in NYC will be playing at the tournament. He is being offered scholarships by almost every big D1 basketball program in the country, and he is only a Jr. in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Anyone else hear that James May retired from the county, but is paid as a consultant to still run this tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I've been to the Dwi almost every year and this year chose to go to the Andrew Donhue tournament at St Pats this year and was completely surprised by the talent and the competitive games. The final between st Mary's and st pats was unbelievable, better that 95% of all the Dwi games I've ever been to. Went to the Dwi games on Sunday and wanted my money back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 O come on. The CV vs SV game was great. The BiNghamton vs ME game was better and the Trinity vs Loughlin game was a over time thriller for the national division with Division 1 prospects playing in it..I doubt that a cyo game was better basketball then any of these games. CYO is a great league for kids that dont have the desire, passion or skill for the rigors of high school hoops. How many of these CYO kids could guard Normille from SV or Ruffo from CV or one of those high flying D1 prospects from Trinity. Im sure the game you saw may have been a good game but no way is it better basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 O come on. The CV vs SV game was great. The BiNghamton vs ME game was better and the Trinity vs Loughlin game was a over time thriller for the national division with Division 1 prospects playing in it..I doubt that a cyo game was better basketball then any of these games. CYO is a great league for kids that dont have the desire, passion or skill for the rigors of high school hoops. How many of these CYO kids could guard Normille from SV or Ruffo from CV or one of those high flying D1 prospects from Trinity. Im sure the game you saw may have been a good game but no way is it better basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest old schuool Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 The option for local teams to participate in the National Bracket should be preserved as long as this tourney exists. BHS got their butts kicked for years, but the players had an opportunity to see a level of competition they had not seen before. The value in a local team to participate in the national division is not realized until the last week of Febuary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I think the excitment of the DWI gets lost in the large venue it is played in. With the large building and the sparce crowds the games lose any sense of intimacy and it is as quiet as a library in there. Plus if we had the games at one of the local high schools I am sure that it would be cheaper then renting out the Arena for 3 days. What also hurts the event is thr ridiculous ticket prices. My son played for one of the local team and for two games, 10 family members =$200 fot tickets. Thats a lot of money for high school hoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Guest Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 The option for local teams to participate in the National Bracket should be preserved as long as this tourney exists. BHS got their butts kicked for years, but the players had an opportunity to see a level of competition they had not seen before. The value in a local team to participate in the national division is not realized until the last week of Febuary. I recall back in 2002 that Binghamton made it all the way to the National Division Championship. The arena was absolutely packed for those 3 games Binghamton played that year! As many people that go to B-Sens games. They ended up losing to a team from Ohio but it was an awesome atmosphere and the fact that BHS made it that far just made the tourney that much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 It's too bad the tourney directors cater to the STAC schools. Whitney Point and Moravia would have been a great matchup to have in the tourney and it could have counted as a league game so the teams could play the final/consulation as their non-league game for the season. Both of these teams are better then CV and Seton and can play with anyone in the local brackets. They also feature some of the best players in the area in Tillotson and Powers. If you haven't heard of these kids and/or seen them play then you too are watching local basketball through "STAC" shaded glasses, and before you say that WP has no place in the tourney they have won it each year they played in it in the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steve Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 It's too bad the tourney directors cater to the STAC schools. Whitney Point and Moravia would have been a great matchup to have in the tourney and it could have counted as a league game so the teams could play the final/consulation as their non-league game for the season. Both of these teams are better then CV and Seton and can play with anyone in the local brackets. They also feature some of the best players in the area in Tillotson and Powers. If you haven't heard of these kids and/or seen them play then you too are watching local basketball through "STAC" shaded glasses, and before you say that WP has no place in the tourney they have won it each year they played in it in the past! whitney point better then cv or seton,,,,,are you effin kidding. not a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Guest Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 whitney point better then cv or seton,,,,,are you effin kidding. not a chance Without a doubt.... whitney point scrimmaged CV and handled them, I have also seen each of the teams play this year so I feel I can make a fair judgement... I'm going to guess you have not seen WP play this year and are just going by previous seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Section4fan Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 No actually the 2 teams didnt play this year, and Whitney point could not keep up with stac competition, I remember them losing to seton by 70 one year!!!!! There is a reason they are in the WHACK or Mac whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 No actually the 2 teams didnt play this year, and Whitney point could not keep up with stac competition, I remember them losing to seton by 70 one year!!!!! There is a reason they are in the WHACK or Mac whatever I agree with you. Whitney Point could not handle Cv. My son plays for CV and they did scrimmage Whitney Point. I went and CV played their reserves almost the whole game. Whitney Point does not belong in the DWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Several years ago, Candor played in the Stop DWI tourney. That was the year they took their conference title and their class in Section 4 and I think may have won their Regional title. Although they made a good showing in the Stop DWI tourney, they lost both games by sizable margins to STAC teams. Not a lot of fun for the Candor kids. Also, the tournament aims to bring in as many spectators as they can. By catering to the local STAC schools, they aim to maximize the number of spectators. The smaller the school, the smaller the supporting community, and the smaller the number of potential spectators. Is it fair to the smaller schools? No. But it's all about revenue and covering the cost of running the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 No actually the 2 teams didnt play this year, and Whitney point could not keep up with stac competition, I remember them losing to seton by 70 one year!!!!! There is a reason they are in the WHACK or Mac whatever I agree with you. Whitney Point could not handle Cv. My son plays for CV and they did scrimmage Whitney Point. I went and CV played their reserves almost the whole game. Whitney Point does not belong in the DWI. As I said you are referring to teams at WP from several years ago. And as far as the IAC goes I will say that for the most part the competition is not as good but wiht that being said Elmira Notre Dame, Waverly, Whitney Point, Dryden, Watkins Glen, and Moravia are all as good if not better then Seton, CF, CV,Windsor, Oneonta and Owego this season. If you put those teams against each other on neutral courts each game would be a coin flip. If you have not seen the teams from the IAC play please do not bash them. I have seen the STAC teams play as well as many IAC teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Several years ago, Candor played in the Stop DWI tourney. That was the year they took their conference title and their class in Section 4 and I think may have won their Regional title. Although they made a good showing in the Stop DWI tourney, they lost both games by sizable margins to STAC teams. Not a lot of fun for the Candor kids. Also, the tournament aims to bring in as many spectators as they can. By catering to the local STAC schools, they aim to maximize the number of spectators. The smaller the school, the smaller the supporting community, and the smaller the number of potential spectators. Is it fair to the smaller schools? No. But it's all about revenue and covering the cost of running the tournament. As far as I can tell Candor was in the tourney in 2006 and had to have played Lansing, another IAC school, since they shared the same bracket, so they did not play two STAC schools. You may be thinking of Oxford who has been in the tourney a few times in teh past and has not had good showings despite dominating the MAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 IAC and MAC are no better than CYO basketball.. You get one occasional kid who is good and athletic and he can dominate everyone.. Place a kid like Rose, Diesti, Curtis, Gallagher, Sinicki, Heimes, Ladd, Nierstat, Normille to name a few and they would all average 25 pts a game.. Not comparison between the leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 IAC and MAC are no better than CYO basketball.. You get one occasional kid who is good and athletic and he can dominate everyone.. Place a kid like Rose, Diesti, Curtis, Gallagher, Sinicki, Heimes, Ladd, Nierstat, Normille to name a few and they would all average 25 pts a game.. Not comparison between the leagues Place a kid like Tillotson, Powers, Benson, Hopkins, Raupers, Georgia(was removed from his team but was a very good player), Norman, Ellis on any STAC school and they would put up the same numbers they do now. Again if you have not seen these teams play then you don't know what you are talking about. I will not argue that as a general rule the STAC is better but I will also say for a fact there are better IAC teams then Forks, Windsor (in recent years), Oneonta (this year), Owego, and even SCC and CV this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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