Guest ED-ISTA Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Crazy Ed says all is doom and gloom. He says that Ryan is a crook and that wifi is stupid, a waste, and a dumb idea. Yup, he's sure got his finger on the pulse! FREE INTERNET TO CONNECT DOWNTOWN BINGHAMTON: http://www.wicz.com/fox40/video.asp?video=...2D08+wifi%2Ewmv BINGHAMTON TO LAUNCH FREE WIRELESS INTERNET SOON: http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll...50/1001/ARCHIVE DOWNTOWN BINGHAMTON IS WIFI CONNECTED: http://www.wbng.com/news/local/15745362.html STUDENTS EXCITED TO SURF WEB FOR FREE: http://www.wbng.com/news/local/15724662.html WIFI COMING TO DOWNTOWN BINGHAMTON IN MARCH: http://news10now.com/Default.aspx?ArID=110791 Oh yeah, Ed was also arrested in Canada because he got madly obsessive and harassed newspaper journalists and public officials. STOP BEING MEAN TO DEAR EDDIE! he really is a genius, wicked handsome and jesus this community is SO glad to have him telling the truth. HE IS SINGLEHANDLELY stopping the crazy cult of Ryanistas ruinING this whole city. THANK YOU ED! I WOULD DIE WITHOUT YOU! CAN I SEND YOU DONATIONS? MAYBE IT WILL HELP COVER THE COST OF YOUR PILLS! I'M SURE THE SALARY YOU GET FROM NAIMA FROM TAXPAYER GRANTS CAN'T BE TOO BIG? PLEASE LET ME HELP YOU MY DEAR, MY GREAT ONLINE WIZARD, MY HOLY GRAIL AND LIVE-GIVING LOVE FORCE! SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS AND I WILL WRITE YOU INTO MY WILL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 it will last for two years or less until the grant money runs out, if it works at all. these kids think it is going to be like a Starbucks hotspot, they will be disappointed when they find ot it only works outisde in a very limited section of town that they go to only to get drunk one night a week...... the local news media doesn't have clue look around the country EVERYWHERE this idea has failed unless tied to muncipal services like fire and police, WHICH IT IS NOT IN BINGHAMTON. Municipal Wi-Fi Networks Run Into Financial, Technical Trouble Wednesday, May 23, 2007 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274728,00.html More Municipal Wireless Problems WiFiNetNews says a purchase of the Tempe Arizona municipal network may be off. Other bad news; Citywide Wi-Fi is dead in Yuma, reports the Yuma Sun. Kite Networks, has stalled the project indefinitely. Cities Scrap Municipal Wireless Plans Written By: Steven Titch Published In: Info Tech & Telecom News Publication Date: September 1, 2007 Publisher: The Heartland Institute http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=21874 Where's My Free Wi-Fi? Why municipal wireless networks have been such a flop. By Tim Wu Posted Thursday, Sept. 27, 2007, at 12:53 PM ET http://www.slate.com/id/2174858/pagenum/all/ EarthLink hangs "for sale" sign on municipal WiFi business By Eric Bangeman | Published: February 09, 2008 - 10:02PM CT EarthLink announced its fourth quarter earnings late last week, and it wasn't pretty. After six straight quarters of losses, the ISP has decided to exit the municipal WiFi sector and will actively look for someone to buy the business. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080...i-business.html http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/01/09/mo...eless-problems/ New Orleans to take city-wide WiFi network offline By Eric Bangeman | Published: October 23, 2006 - 11:22AM CT In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans came up with a plan to help get its communications infrastructure back up and running: a free, city-wide WiFi network. Built with equipment donated by Intel, Tropos Networks, and Pronto Networks, the Crescent City's municipal WiFi network will soon be going dark. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061023-8052.html?rel Stay Current Features 10 Reasons Your City Should Skip Municipal Wireless (1 Comment)There are real reasons for the cool down in municipal wifi. http://www.dailywireless.com/features/ten-...ni-wifi-101007/ PLEASE FIND ONE CITY WHERE WIFI HAS BEEN A SUCCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest seth Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 hmmmmmm. Ed seems to strike a nerve. Keep it up Ed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARMELEE Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 hmmmmmm. Ed seems to strike a nerve. Keep it up Ed! I have to agree... And it seems every time Ed is right, the only card the other side has to play is the crazy card instead of coming up with some real answers, now why is that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Looks like Crazy Ed wins... it will last for two years or less until the grant money runs out, if it works at all. these kids think it is going to be like a Starbucks hotspot, they will be disappointed when they find ot it only works outisde in a very limited section of town that they go to only to get drunk one night a week...... the local news media doesn't have clue look around the country EVERYWHERE this idea has failed unless tied to muncipal services like fire and police, WHICH IT IS NOT IN BINGHAMTON. Municipal Wi-Fi Networks Run Into Financial, Technical Trouble Wednesday, May 23, 2007 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274728,00.html More Municipal Wireless Problems WiFiNetNews says a purchase of the Tempe Arizona municipal network may be off. Other bad news; Citywide Wi-Fi is dead in Yuma, reports the Yuma Sun. Kite Networks, has stalled the project indefinitely. Cities Scrap Municipal Wireless Plans Written By: Steven Titch Published In: Info Tech & Telecom News Publication Date: September 1, 2007 Publisher: The Heartland Institute http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=21874 Where's My Free Wi-Fi? Why municipal wireless networks have been such a flop. By Tim Wu Posted Thursday, Sept. 27, 2007, at 12:53 PM ET http://www.slate.com/id/2174858/pagenum/all/ EarthLink hangs "for sale" sign on municipal WiFi business By Eric Bangeman | Published: February 09, 2008 - 10:02PM CT EarthLink announced its fourth quarter earnings late last week, and it wasn't pretty. After six straight quarters of losses, the ISP has decided to exit the municipal WiFi sector and will actively look for someone to buy the business. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080...i-business.html http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/01/09/mo...eless-problems/ New Orleans to take city-wide WiFi network offline By Eric Bangeman | Published: October 23, 2006 - 11:22AM CT In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans came up with a plan to help get its communications infrastructure back up and running: a free, city-wide WiFi network. Built with equipment donated by Intel, Tropos Networks, and Pronto Networks, the Crescent City's municipal WiFi network will soon be going dark. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061023-8052.html?rel Stay Current Features 10 Reasons Your City Should Skip Municipal Wireless (1 Comment)There are real reasons for the cool down in municipal wifi. http://www.dailywireless.com/features/ten-...ni-wifi-101007/ PLEASE FIND ONE CITY WHERE WIFI HAS BEEN A SUCCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Ed's rants would not bother me if he lived in Binghamton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Ed's rants would not bother me if he lived in Binghamton... Oh,. please, what a liar!!!! Just another attempt to sidestep the isues you are unable to address. If he works at two job in Binghamton you don't think he has a right to comment on Binghamton? If he lives in Greater Binghamton he cannot comnet on Binghamton??? If he lives in the Binghamton Metropolitan Area he cannot comment on Binghamotn? Maybe the Press & Sun-Bulletin should no longer comment on Binghamton, since it only has offices in Vestal and Johnson City! Maybe Ken Frank, the City of Binghamton Corporate Council should resign, he doesn't live in Bignhamton either but he is supposed to, he got a waiver to do his job! What is Jim Dessauer's official residence Binghamton or Syracuse? What a lark. Is that all you have? You people are pathetic. You cannot find one municipailty where wifi has been successful, can you............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Ed ... GET HELP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Totally unable to addres the issues, right! Where has muni wifi worked? it will last for two years or less until the grant money runs out, if it works at all. these kids think it is going to be like a Starbucks hotspot, they will be disappointed when they find ot it only works outisde in a very limited section of town that they go to only to get drunk one night a week...... the local news media doesn't have clue look around the country EVERYWHERE this idea has failed unless tied to muncipal services like fire and police, WHICH IT IS NOT IN BINGHAMTON. Municipal Wi-Fi Networks Run Into Financial, Technical Trouble Wednesday, May 23, 2007 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274728,00.html More Municipal Wireless Problems WiFiNetNews says a purchase of the Tempe Arizona municipal network may be off. Other bad news; Citywide Wi-Fi is dead in Yuma, reports the Yuma Sun. Kite Networks, has stalled the project indefinitely. Cities Scrap Municipal Wireless Plans Written By: Steven Titch Published In: Info Tech & Telecom News Publication Date: September 1, 2007 Publisher: The Heartland Institute http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=21874 Where's My Free Wi-Fi? Why municipal wireless networks have been such a flop. By Tim Wu Posted Thursday, Sept. 27, 2007, at 12:53 PM ET http://www.slate.com/id/2174858/pagenum/all/ EarthLink hangs "for sale" sign on municipal WiFi business By Eric Bangeman | Published: February 09, 2008 - 10:02PM CT EarthLink announced its fourth quarter earnings late last week, and it wasn't pretty. After six straight quarters of losses, the ISP has decided to exit the municipal WiFi sector and will actively look for someone to buy the business. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080...i-business.html http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/01/09/mo...eless-problems/ New Orleans to take city-wide WiFi network offline By Eric Bangeman | Published: October 23, 2006 - 11:22AM CT In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans came up with a plan to help get its communications infrastructure back up and running: a free, city-wide WiFi network. Built with equipment donated by Intel, Tropos Networks, and Pronto Networks, the Crescent City's municipal WiFi network will soon be going dark. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061023-8052.html?rel Stay Current Features 10 Reasons Your City Should Skip Municipal Wireless (1 Comment)There are real reasons for the cool down in municipal wifi. http://www.dailywireless.com/features/ten-...ni-wifi-101007/ PLEASE FIND ONE CITY WHERE WIFI HAS BEEN A SUCCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The West Sider Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Keep at it Ed. TWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navin R Johnson Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Totally unable to addres the issues, right! Where has muni wifi worked? okay hot shot here you go since we are playing the link game. http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/news/2004/wireless_hotspots.htm http://www.ddj.com/architect/202600424?cid..._ArchitectDebug http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/54270.html and this one has some links in regards to cities that have gone wifi already http://www.municipalwimax.net/ see ed you are not the only one who can throw links around to support your argument only. I agree that the wifi needs to be tied in with the city and county govt and police and fire...but the important thing is to get the thing going first then expand it if it works out. I don't know how it wll work out, but if you are going to post information, perhaps you should take a look at both sides of the issue. This is how and why ed is labeld as crazy. he rants on things without taking a step back to look at the full picture. And to to comment on the living in binghamton thing. yes we all should be concerend about binghamton since it is the largest community here, but we also should concern ourselves with all the communities, vestal, jc, endicott. And again this is where ed gets labeled as obsessed. he does not post rants about the endicott financial situation, or the airport. he doesn't post about county business. it is strictly binghamton. I am sure ed, shops in vestal and endicott. we know he lives in jc and works/posts in binghamton. if he would put the effort to rant about the sorry state of the other communities as well as binghamton, he would seem slightly less crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The West Sider Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 okay hot shot here you go since we are playing the link game. http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/news/2004/wireless_hotspots.htm http://www.ddj.com/architect/202600424?cid..._ArchitectDebug http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/54270.html and this one has some links in regards to cities that have gone wifi already http://www.municipalwimax.net/ see ed you are not the only one who can throw links around to support your argument only. I agree that the wifi needs to be tied in with the city and county govt and police and fire...but the important thing is to get the thing going first then expand it if it works out. I don't know how it wll work out, but if you are going to post information, perhaps you should take a look at both sides of the issue. This is how and why ed is labeld as crazy. he rants on things without taking a step back to look at the full picture. And to to comment on the living in binghamton thing. yes we all should be concerend about binghamton since it is the largest community here, but we also should concern ourselves with all the communities, vestal, jc, endicott. And again this is where ed gets labeled as obsessed. he does not post rants about the endicott financial situation, or the airport. he doesn't post about county business. it is strictly binghamton. I am sure ed, shops in vestal and endicott. we know he lives in jc and works/posts in binghamton. if he would put the effort to rant about the sorry state of the other communities as well as binghamton, he would seem slightly less crazy. I am sure that it works. However, do you think that it plays and integral part in their business plan and a business's willingness to locate to a particular area? Not that I am a business owner, but I would think that a 10% increase in taxes would sway my decision to move my business somewhere versus wifi. But hey, what do I know? TWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 POPTART, WHY ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO MISLEAD PEOPLE? THOSE LINKS YOU OFFERED DO NOT PROVE WIFI WORKS AT ALL. IN FACT THEY SUPPORT MY POINT OF VIEW AND SOME OF THE ONES YOU OFFERED WERE FROM 2005 AND 2006, THAT'S LIKE TALKING ABOUT THE DOTCOM MANIA BEFORE THE DOTCOM BUST. VERY DISINGENUOUS, POPTART. EVEN YOU AGREE WITH WHAT I SAID BUT DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY: "I agree that the wifi needs to be tied in with the city and county govt and police and fire...but the important thing is to get the thing going first then expand it if it works out. " YOU WROTE. Well, the City of Binghamton police and fire will NEVER be on the muni wfi system, they have their own!!!! you jsut don't get it Tommy. As for your comment about my not be concerned with Vestal or Endicott etc, how many things do you thing I can focus on and stay current with? I really do not live in Vestal or Endicott nor work there. About all I do is visit. If it makes you fel better I commnet about cycling all the time as well. http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/news/2004/wireless_hotspots.htm 2004 - 2 minicipal building! Big deal!!! http://www.ddj.com/architect/202600424?cid..._ArchitectDebug "Much of the early enthusiasm for municipal wifi focused on free public access, but the report indicates that free wifi growth has leveled off. The strongest growth will be in new applications such as public safety networks for fire and police, as well as utility apps (automatic meter reading and so on) and paid public access (retail or mobile business wifi). " EXACTLY WHAT I SAID http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/54270.html "Everyone wants to get something for free, but there's a lot of downside with the whole free concept. Cities should be aware of the complexities of building out a WiFi network," said Settles. "Cities may need to turn over ownership to a private company rather than trying to find ways to fund these networks." 2006 and this one has some links in regards to cities that have gone wifi already http://www.municipalwimax.net/ "Welcome to MunicipalWiMax.net, where we are bringing WiMax broadband and Municipal WiFi connectivity to cities from coast to coast. " Copyright 2000 - 2005 Futura Technologies, LLC - MunicipalWiMax.net. All rights reserved. Talk about biased, they install the systems!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navin R Johnson Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 POPTART, WHY ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO MISLEAD PEOPLE? THOSE LINKS YOU OFFERED DO NOT PROVE WIFI WORKS AT ALL. IN FACT THEY SUPPORT MY POINT OF VIEW AND SOME OF THE ONES YOU OFFERED WERE FROM 2005 AND 2006, THAT'S LIKE TALKING ABOUT THE DOTCOM MANIA BEFORE THE DOTCOM BUST. VERY DISINGENUOUS, POPTART. EVEN YOU AGREE WITH WHAT I SAID BUT DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY: "I agree that the wifi needs to be tied in with the city and county govt and police and fire...but the important thing is to get the thing going first then expand it if it works out. " YOU WROTE. Well, the City of Binghamton police and fire will NEVER be on the muni wfi system, they have their own!!!! you jsut don't get it Tommy. As for your comment about my not be concerned with Vestal or Endicott etc, how many things do you thing I can focus on and stay current with? I really do not live in Vestal or Endicott nor work there. About all I do is visit. If it makes you fel better I commnet about cycling all the time as well. http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/news/2004/wireless_hotspots.htm 2004 - 2 minicipal building! Big deal!!! http://www.ddj.com/architect/202600424?cid..._ArchitectDebug "Much of the early enthusiasm for municipal wifi focused on free public access, but the report indicates that free wifi growth has leveled off. The strongest growth will be in new applications such as public safety networks for fire and police, as well as utility apps (automatic meter reading and so on) and paid public access (retail or mobile business wifi). " EXACTLY WHAT I SAID http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/54270.html "Everyone wants to get something for free, but there's a lot of downside with the whole free concept. Cities should be aware of the complexities of building out a WiFi network," said Settles. "Cities may need to turn over ownership to a private company rather than trying to find ways to fund these networks." 2006 and this one has some links in regards to cities that have gone wifi already http://www.municipalwimax.net/ "Welcome to MunicipalWiMax.net, where we are bringing WiMax broadband and Municipal WiFi connectivity to cities from coast to coast. " Copyright 2000 - 2005 Futura Technologies, LLC - MunicipalWiMax.net. All rights reserved. Talk about biased, they install the systems!!! ed my friend, i tried to be civil with you but i really don't appreciate not only your tone but also i am a little worried that you are using my name on here. Is this how it starts for your victims ed? am I about to be stalked by you? Yes ed i took about 30 seconds to locate some links to disprove your idea that no cities are installing wifi. 30 seconds and found some. sure they are a few years old, but just like everything else here, we are a little behind the times and technology. There are many cities world wide that are using wifi in their urban or dowtown cores. Lets just wait and see how things turn out before you judge it. You need to focus on your little village ed. that place is worse off than binghamton. Focus on the big picture my friend. Vestal is vital to this area because it is one of the few municipalities that is showing signs of growth. It is rapidly becoming the retail and entertainment center of the county. (your little theater not withstanding) JC is home to the largest retail center and also one of the largest employers (uhs) in the county. Endicott is the last piece in the triple cities name., it is home to a large industrial company, and it is home to arguably the largest entertainment event in the area (Dicks sporting goods open). So all these municipalities are vital and we should follow and focus on every one of them. binghamton could not survive without the other surrounding communities. Likewise, the other communities could not survive without binghamton. So to focus on one part is narrow minded ed. I know you are smarter than that. An in the future, please do refrain from using my name on here. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 ed my friend, i tried to be civil with you but i really don't appreciate not only your tone but also i am a little worried that you are using my name on here. Is this how it starts for your victims ed? am I about to be stalked by you? Yes ed i took about 30 seconds to locate some links to disprove your idea that no cities are installing wifi. 30 seconds and found some. sure they are a few years old, but just like everything else here, we are a little behind the times and technology. There are many cities world wide that are using wifi in their urban or dowtown cores. Lets just wait and see how things turn out before you judge it. You need to focus on your little village ed. that place is worse off than binghamton. Focus on the big picture my friend. Vestal is vital to this area because it is one of the few municipalities that is showing signs of growth. It is rapidly becoming the retail and entertainment center of the county. (your little theater not withstanding) JC is home to the largest retail center and also one of the largest employers (uhs) in the county. Endicott is the last piece in the triple cities name., it is home to a large industrial company, and it is home to arguably the largest entertainment event in the area (Dicks sporting goods open). So all these municipalities are vital and we should follow and focus on every one of them. binghamton could not survive without the other surrounding communities. Likewise, the other communities could not survive without binghamton. So to focus on one part is narrow minded ed. I know you are smarter than that. An in the future, please do refrain from using my name on here. Thanks. You are a bonafide lunatic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I'm one of those conservative types that doesn't believe the government has any business doing municiple wifi, electric or anything else, so I won't burden you with that. But it would be very refreshing to read some constructive stuff from any of you guys. Just once, could you turn the conversation into - "I believe a good mayor and his administration should do X because the benefit of Y would be just dandy. What do you think?" Now. I started the conversation under another thread relating to the roll of government. But here goes. Take the Christmas lights down off the abondoned bridge and hang them around Court St. and that really dark ally that used to be a street where the drug dealers hang out. This would give the police better opportunity to aim accuratley at fleeing suspects when they dare to patroll down that hell hole. Seriously - its dark downtown. Light it up! Whay do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madned Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Crazy Ed says all is doom and gloom. He says that Ryan is a crook and that wifi is stupid, a waste, and a dumb idea. Yup, he's sure got his finger on the pulse! FREE INTERNET TO CONNECT DOWNTOWN BINGHAMTON: http://www.wicz.com/fox40/video.asp?video=...2D08+wifi%2Ewmv BINGHAMTON TO LAUNCH FREE WIRELESS INTERNET SOON: http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll...50/1001/ARCHIVE DOWNTOWN BINGHAMTON IS WIFI CONNECTED: http://www.wbng.com/news/local/15745362.html STUDENTS EXCITED TO SURF WEB FOR FREE: http://www.wbng.com/news/local/15724662.html WIFI COMING TO DOWNTOWN BINGHAMTON IN MARCH: http://news10now.com/Default.aspx?ArID=110791 Oh yeah, Ed was also arrested in Canada because he got madly obsessive and harassed newspaper journalists and public officials. STOP BEING MEAN TO DEAR EDDIE! he really is a genius, wicked handsome and jesus this community is SO glad to have him telling the truth. HE IS SINGLEHANDLELY stopping the crazy cult of Ryanistas ruinING this whole city. THANK YOU ED! I WOULD DIE WITHOUT YOU! CAN I SEND YOU DONATIONS? MAYBE IT WILL HELP COVER THE COST OF YOUR PILLS! I'M SURE THE SALARY YOU GET FROM NAIMA FROM TAXPAYER GRANTS CAN'T BE TOO BIG? PLEASE LET ME HELP YOU MY DEAR, MY GREAT ONLINE WIZARD, MY HOLY GRAIL AND LIVE-GIVING LOVE FORCE! SEND ME YOUR ADDRESS AND I WILL WRITE YOU INTO MY WILL!! I hope I can get it do you know the range I already have a wireless setup for three computers. I live about a half mile from Central the school let me know if you find out. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navin R Johnson Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I'm one of those conservative types that doesn't believe the government has any business doing municiple wifi, electric or anything else, so I won't burden you with that. But it would be very refreshing to read some constructive stuff from any of you guys. Just once, could you turn the conversation into - "I believe a good mayor and his administration should do X because the benefit of Y would be just dandy. What do you think?" Now. I started the conversation under another thread relating to the roll of government. But here goes. Take the Christmas lights down off the abondoned bridge and hang them around Court St. and that really dark ally that used to be a street where the drug dealers hang out. This would give the police better opportunity to aim accuratley at fleeing suspects when they dare to patroll down that hell hole. Seriously - its dark downtown. Light it up! Whay do you think? I couldn't agree with you more. I have been saying that for years but I was laughed at for suggesting that on here. the downton area is way too dark. ever since they brought in those cute little lamp posts it hs been way too dark. also endicott did the same thing on washington ave and crime increased there, and jc did the same hing on main st and guess what, same result. Thank you for bringing that topic up. Great idea. now if only the idiots at city hall and the council would pull the head out of their bums, they could start with that. But instead they are trying to set records wth how fast they can finish meetings or pass resolutions to impeach the president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I couldn't agree with you more. I have been saying that for years but I was laughed at for suggesting that on here. the downton area is way too dark. ever since they brought in those cute little lamp posts it hs been way too dark. also endicott did the same thing on washington ave and crime increased there, and jc did the same hing on main st and guess what, same result. Thank you for bringing that topic up. Great idea. now if only the idiots at city hall and the council would pull the head out of their bums, they could start with that. But instead they are trying to set records wth how fast they can finish meetings or pass resolutions to impeach the president. Thanks for your supportive comments. As I started out before, I'm interested in having positive dialog about what the community needs.. and not just banging on current politicians. Having said that, wouldn't it be nice if there was a public notice where we could view the current goals and plans and progress of all the local administrations? All in a single spot, easy to view and post comments to? Sort of like an executive summary for people like me that don't have the time to do all the research that some people obviously do. The next thing I'd like to see is a very public leadership roll in the effort to consolidate services around the community. I know there are a few efforts going, and it seems they've made some progress, but there doesn't seem to be a clear focus on who's doing what, why.. and etc... Again, a public online forum, supported by Broome County and the City of Binghamton with objectives and progress would be useful. Someone would have to sift through a multitude of dum comments, but there would probably be some really useful ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Arzouian Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Now if only the idiots at city hall and the council would pull the head out of their bums, they could start with that. But instead they are trying to set records wth how fast they can finish meetings or pass resolutions to impeach the president. Now you are talking my language. With regards to your desire for more lights, it might interest you to know that one of the best values for your dollar being offered NYSEG is renting a floodlight from them to mount on one of their poles near your home or business. For about $24/month they will install and maintain a 400 Watt flood light power included. We are lighting our entire parking lot with one. I suppose most people do not know NYSEG offers this service. They should market it more. Poptart, you seem to think the dates of your wifi articles don't matter. They do. For awhile wifi seemed like a great idea. I bought into it in 2004 and early 2005 until I started researching it more. The problem is the technolgy ran past the idea. Most people that NEED wifi on their laptops all the time now have it from Sprint, Verizon or some ISP like that. Also, many people have Blackberries and other PDAs with Internet capacity, they do not need wifi. Most consumer businesses that want to offer it to their clients do so themselves for a variety of reason, including brandng, security, marketing reliability All these changing factors mean that there is a limited market and demand for the muni wifi idea as it is now. Sure, low income people would like it but where will they get the hardware to do it? The Binghamton idea is ill-conceived and poorly executed, typical for Ryan and his cohorts. Where is the info on advertising? That could be up on the web site now. The sytem does not need to be active to sell ads or at least lay the groundwork. Where is the pricing structure? Who is selliing the ads? All the questions should be answered by now since they claim the service will be up in two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I have to agree... And it seems every time Ed is right, the only card the other side has to play is the crazy card instead of coming up with some real answers, now why is that?? When was Ed ever right? I must have skipped over that post (like I do all his rambling psychotic gibberish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 You must have missed this. Check them all out. Find one curent example of a successful muni wifi system especially a free one for civilian use..., go ahead..., we'll wait.... it will last for two years or less until the grant money runs out, if it works at all. these kids think it is going to be like a Starbucks hotspot, they will be disappointed when they find ot it only works outisde in a very limited section of town that they go to only to get drunk one night a week...... the local news media doesn't have clue look around the country EVERYWHERE this idea has failed unless tied to muncipal services like fire and police, WHICH IT IS NOT IN BINGHAMTON. Municipal Wi-Fi Networks Run Into Financial, Technical Trouble Wednesday, May 23, 2007 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274728,00.html More Municipal Wireless Problems WiFiNetNews says a purchase of the Tempe Arizona municipal network may be off. Other bad news; Citywide Wi-Fi is dead in Yuma, reports the Yuma Sun. Kite Networks, has stalled the project indefinitely. Cities Scrap Municipal Wireless Plans Written By: Steven Titch Published In: Info Tech & Telecom News Publication Date: September 1, 2007 Publisher: The Heartland Institute http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=21874 Where's My Free Wi-Fi? Why municipal wireless networks have been such a flop. By Tim Wu Posted Thursday, Sept. 27, 2007, at 12:53 PM ET http://www.slate.com/id/2174858/pagenum/all/ EarthLink hangs "for sale" sign on municipal WiFi business By Eric Bangeman | Published: February 09, 2008 - 10:02PM CT EarthLink announced its fourth quarter earnings late last week, and it wasn't pretty. After six straight quarters of losses, the ISP has decided to exit the municipal WiFi sector and will actively look for someone to buy the business. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080...i-business.html http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/01/09/mo...eless-problems/ New Orleans to take city-wide WiFi network offline By Eric Bangeman | Published: October 23, 2006 - 11:22AM CT In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans came up with a plan to help get its communications infrastructure back up and running: a free, city-wide WiFi network. Built with equipment donated by Intel, Tropos Networks, and Pronto Networks, the Crescent City's municipal WiFi network will soon be going dark. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061023-8052.html?rel Stay Current Features 10 Reasons Your City Should Skip Municipal Wireless (1 Comment)There are real reasons for the cool down in municipal wifi. http://www.dailywireless.com/features/ten-...ni-wifi-101007/ PLEASE FIND ONE CITY WHERE WIFI HAS BEEN A SUCCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Arzouian Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Anytime anyone can point to a successful currently operating muni wif system that is not tied into a public security system, please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navin R Johnson Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Anytime anyone can point to a successful currently operating muni wif system that is not tied into a public security system, please do. ed 4:09 am???? why are so posting so early man...does this stuff wake you up in the middle of the night and you run and post. seriously man fight the urge go back to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Who cares what time it is? Focus on the issue. I have two Labs they wake me up all night to go outside. I'm a light sleeper. Maybe I'm postign form adiffernt time zone. Mayeb I'm working on the late shift. What the hell does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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