Ouch.

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Nice to of the government to hand out $400 checks this year even if you did not owe income tax.

 

 

Uncle George W handed out $600 in 2007, and $1,200 per couple, even if you didn't pay any income tax. Did you whine then as well?

[Guest Guest]

Uncle George W handed out $600 in 2007, and $1,200 per couple, even if you didn't pay any income tax. Did you whine then as well?

 

That was different. That was then, this is now.

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The facts in reality are different from the things that you call facts in that state of paranoia you live in. Apples and oranges.

 

 

Ah come on! Now you're just projecting. When you start throwing around words like "paranoia", its painfully obvious that you are simply out of ideas.

[Guest Guest]

Ah come on! Now you're just projecting. When you start throwing around words like "paranoia", its painfully obvious that you are simply out of ideas.

[Guest guest]

 

 

Thanks for proving my point.

[Guest Guest]

Thanks for proving my point.

Thanks for stealing another one of my lines. Again.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks for stealing another one of my lines. Again.

 

 

WARNING: Don't believe everything you think.

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A third stupid comment in a row!!! You are on a roll. Keep hitting that 40oz. and blunt, loser.

 

LIBTARD TACTIC #1: Attack their spellingand typos. It is very effective when you have no defense to offer.

 

hahaha

You forgot a space between spelling and typos. Oh, it very effective also. Or is that affective? HA HA! Bye now!

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You forgot a space between spelling and typos. Oh, it very effective also. Or is that affective? HA HA! Bye now!

 

Will someone at the commune turn off the computer so when you start passing the dope around we don’t have to suffer these inane statements?

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Will someone at the commune turn off the computer so when you start passing the dope around we don’t have to suffer these inane statements?

 

Commune???????? OK Gramps! LOOK MARTHA! HIPPIES!

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You forgot a space between spelling and typos. Oh, it very effective also. Or is that affective? HA HA! Bye now!

 

 

Recess time, huh? I bet that is your second favorite, right after nap-time.

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They should never get more than they paid in. If the deductions take them below the amount of taxes they paid they should not get a "refund". It should stop at zero.

 

I can not agree with you. If they fall into the working poor category we are far better off giving them a refund than push them into the welfare system.

 

Just to be clear about what withholdings and refunds actually are. Refunds are usually not government money paid back to the taxpayer, they're a part of the taxpayer's own money, refunded because the government was holding more than they ended up owing when it came time to settle the account. Generally, people don't get back more than they paid in from deductions, which are just deductions against your taxable income. It's the credits, straight credits of cash, that do that.

 

There ARE people who actually get back more than they paid in, obviously, but the way you two were talking, someone might take from it that all tax refunds are actually payments of other people's money and that that's what deductions do. That's not quite right. I got four figures back this year after my deductible expenses, but that's from withholdings *on top of* the four figures the government ended up keeping.

 

Also, on the topic of population increase: social security and other public systems are dependent on a growing supply of taxpayers, so population stability either means major tax increases for those programs or the death of those programs. America is much, much less densely populated than, say, the United Kingdom, and only about 5% or so is developed, so there's not really an issue of overpopulation, no matter what anybody says. (Not to say the tax credit is a good idea or a bad idea.)

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Actually, George W and company gave huge tax breaks to the RICH, didn't you hear all of the socialist rants on FOX news then?

Well...because...not stealing and punishing a ''rich'' guy who works for a living isn't socialism, redistribution of wealth is though.

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Well...because...not stealing and punishing a ''rich'' guy who works for a living isn't socialism, redistribution of wealth is though.

But redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich is OK?

 

 

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Actually, George W and company gave huge tax breaks to the RICH, didn't you hear all of the socialist rants on FOX news then?

 

Which, as history has shown over and over again, RAISED tax revenues. Get a clue dumb-a$$. That is the biggest liberal problem. The inability to learn from others' successs and their own failures.

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But redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich is OK?

 

 

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Which, as history has shown over and over again, RAISED tax revenues. Get a clue dumb-a$$. That is the biggest liberal problem. The inability to learn from others' successs and their own failures.

Your history is flawed.

 

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=507

 

http://www.twincities.com/lotterman/ci_146...?nclick_check=1

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Which, as history has shown over and over again, RAISED tax revenues. Get a clue dumb-a$$. That is the biggest liberal problem. The inability to learn from others' successs and their own failures.

 

So if George W's tax plicy of giving to the rich raised tax revenues, how did he blow the surplus that we had when he took office into a HUGE deficit? I learned plenty from George's failures, seems you didn't dumb a$$ yourself.

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So if George W's tax plicy of giving to the rich raised tax revenues, how did he blow the surplus that we had when he took office into a HUGE deficit? I learned plenty from George's failures, seems you didn't dumb a$$ yourself.

 

 

I don't imagine that fighting two wars had anything to do with it. Oh, wait. I guess that could have been it. It will make more sense when you get out of grade school junior.

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High taxes are not OK for anyone, whether they are a person or a corporation. The government needs to be held responsible for its own spending and if they are irresponsible the answer is NOT a national sales tax. The answer are cuts to the government itself, which has obviously grown too big.

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But redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich is OK?

I don't think letting somebody keep their own money is really redistribution. Besides rich people are usually greedy, if the government attacks them I doubt they will just sit there and take it. I'm sure they know plenty of shady moves they can make to protect what they earned, and that will probably just hurt the middle class even more, loss of wages or loss of jobs or loss of benefits ect.

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Even if you tax the rich at 100% (everyone earning more than $500,000 pays every penny to the government), you will still not be able to cover the debt!

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So if George W's tax plicy of giving to the rich raised tax revenues, how did he blow the surplus that we had when he took office into a HUGE deficit? I learned plenty from George's failures, seems you didn't dumb a$$ yourself.

You're about to learn a terrible truth, there was no surplus, maybe on msnbc there was, but not in real life. I'm sure the liberals idea to make banks lend money to under-qualified borrowers, to my surprise didn't pay their notes and 9-11 had nothing to do with it. You got a problem with deficits? I guess you didn't see the deficit from Obama, you just wait, when you see that you are going to be pissed, I heard it's more that that failure George's, all eight years.

[Guest Guest]

We need to cut all social benefit programs by 50%! Survival of the fittest. Cut the benefits in half for every additional child once you are on the program.

 

Its real simple. We can't spend money we do not have!!!!

[Guest Guest]

We need to cut all social benefit programs by 50%! Survival of the fittest. Cut the benefits in half for every additional child once you are on the program.

 

Its real simple. We can't spend money we do not have!!!!

 

How about a 10% cut of ALL expenditures across the board? Everything. No exceptions. Can't be any fairer than that.