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Have you complained to the magazine, or are you just going to bitch about it here?

NO just here your the only one I care to annoy today thanks.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You think that liberal rag gives a crap what anyone says? The have already sacrificed a large portion of the buying audience to push their liberal drivel.

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NO just here your the only one I care to annoy today thanks.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You think that liberal rag gives a crap what anyone says? The have already sacrificed a large portion of the buying audience to push their liberal drivel.

 

 

Sgt. Slaughter to the rescue!!! Again!!!

 

Saving the whole human race is a big task.

 

You sure you're up to it?

 

 

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You DELETED that want to feel like your the savior of the world are disgusting. Using one of the most cherished photos in the history of our country for your Man Made Global Warming Lie.

YOU SUCK TIME !!!!!!!!!!

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I like it.

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We knew you would.

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And you say you're not a troll.

 

The thing about trolls is that most of the time they don't know they're trolls.

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Considering that the Iwo Jima photo that we all know and won all the awards was staged (the soldiers re-enacted the original raising, which even had differnt soldiers), I do not see what the problem is.

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Considering that the Iwo Jima photo that we all know and won all the awards was staged (the soldiers re-enacted the original raising, which even had differnt soldiers), I do not see what the problem is.

You wouldn't see the problem, why don't you tell these guys you think it's alright to portray the fight of there life as just a good propaganda snapshot. And by the way this one was not Bushes war.

 

Iwo Jima Veterans Blast Time's 'Special Environmental Issue' Cover

 

For only the second time in 85 years, Time magazine abandoned the traditional red border it uses on its cover. The occasion – to push more global warming alarmism.

 

 

 

The cover of the April 21 issue of Time took the famous Iwo Jima photograph by Joe Rosenthal of the Marines raising the American flag and replaced the flag with a tree. The cover story by Bryan Walsh calls green “the new red, white and blue.”

 

 

 

Donald Mates, an Iwo Jima veteran, told the Business & Media Institute on April 17 that using that photograph for that cause was a “disgrace.”

 

 

 

 

“It’s an absolute disgrace,” Mates said. “Whoever did it is going to hell. That’s a mortal sin. God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor.”

 

 

 

Mates also said making the comparison of World War II to global warming was erroneous and disrespectful.

 

 

 

“The second world war we knew was there,” Mates said. “There’s a big discussion. Some say there is global warming, some say there isn’t. And to stick a tree in place of a flag on the Iwo Jima picture is just sacrilegious.”

 

 

 

According to the American Veterans Center (AVC), Mates served in the 3rd Marine Division and fought in the battle of Iwo Jima, landing on Feb. 24, 1945.

 

 

 

“A few days later, Mates’ eight-man patrol came under heavy assault from Japanese forces,” Tim Holbert, a spokesman for the AVC, said. “During fierce-hand-to-hand combat, Mates watched as his friend and fellow Marine, Jimmy Trimble, was killed in front of his eyes. Mates was severely wounded, and underwent repeated operations for shrapnel removal for over 30 years.”

 

 

 

Lt. John Keith Wells, the leader of the platoon that raised the flags on Mt. Suribachi and co-author of “Give Me Fifty Marines Not Afraid to Die: Iwo Jima” wasn’t impressed with Time’s efforts.

 

 

 

“That global warming is the biggest joke I’ve ever known,” Wells told the Business & Media Institute. “[W]e’ll stick a dadgum tree up somebody’s rear if they want that and think that’s going to cure something.”

 

 

 

Time managing editor Richard Stengel appeared on MSNBC April 17 and said the United States needed to make a major effort to fight climate change, and that the cover’s purpose was to liken global warming to World War II.

 

 

 

“[O]ne of the things we do in the story is we say there needs to be an effort along the lines of preparing for World War II to combat global warming and climate change,” Stengel said. “It seems to me that this is an issue that is very popular with the voters, makes a lot of sense to them and a candidate who can actually bundle it up in some grand way and say, ‘Look, we need a national and international Manhattan Project to solve this problem and my candidacy involves that.’ I don't understand why they don’t do that.”

 

 

 

Holbert, a speaking on behalf of the American Veterans Center, said the editorial decision by Time to use the photograph for the cover trivialized the cause the veterans fought for.

 

 

 

“Global warming may or may not be a significant threat to the United States,” Holbert said. “The Japanese Empire in February of 1945, however, certainly was, and this photo trivializes the most recognizable moment of one of the bloodiest battles in U.S. history. War analogies should be used sparingly by political advocates of all bents.”

 

 

 

Stengel also appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on April 17 and had no difficulty admitting the magazine needed to have a “point of view.”

 

 

 

“I think since I’ve been back at the magazine, I have felt that one of the things that’s needed in journalism is that you have to have a point of view about things,” Stengel said. “You can’t always just say ‘on the one hand, on the other’ and you decide. People trust us to make decisions. We’re experts in what we do. So I thought, you know what, if we really feel strongly about something let's just say so.”

 

 

 

Time has been banging the global warming drum for some time now. In April 2007, Time offered 51 ways to “save the planet,” which included more taxes and regulation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You wouldn't see the problem, why don't you tell these guys you think it's alright to portray the fight of there life as just a good propaganda snapshot. And by the way this one was not Bushes war.

 

Iwo Jima Veterans Blast Time's 'Special Environmental Issue' Cover

 

For only the second time in 85 years, Time magazine abandoned the traditional red border it uses on its cover. The occasion – to push more global warming alarmism.

 

 

 

The cover of the April 21 issue of Time took the famous Iwo Jima photograph by Joe Rosenthal of the Marines raising the American flag and replaced the flag with a tree. The cover story by Bryan Walsh calls green “the new red, white and blue.”

 

 

 

Donald Mates, an Iwo Jima veteran, told the Business & Media Institute on April 17 that using that photograph for that cause was a “disgrace.”

 

 

 

 

“It’s an absolute disgrace,” Mates said. “Whoever did it is going to hell. That’s a mortal sin. God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor.”

 

 

 

Mates also said making the comparison of World War II to global warming was erroneous and disrespectful.

 

 

 

“The second world war we knew was there,” Mates said. “There’s a big discussion. Some say there is global warming, some say there isn’t. And to stick a tree in place of a flag on the Iwo Jima picture is just sacrilegious.”

 

 

 

According to the American Veterans Center (AVC), Mates served in the 3rd Marine Division and fought in the battle of Iwo Jima, landing on Feb. 24, 1945.

 

 

 

“A few days later, Mates’ eight-man patrol came under heavy assault from Japanese forces,” Tim Holbert, a spokesman for the AVC, said. “During fierce-hand-to-hand combat, Mates watched as his friend and fellow Marine, Jimmy Trimble, was killed in front of his eyes. Mates was severely wounded, and underwent repeated operations for shrapnel removal for over 30 years.”

 

 

 

Lt. John Keith Wells, the leader of the platoon that raised the flags on Mt. Suribachi and co-author of “Give Me Fifty Marines Not Afraid to Die: Iwo Jima” wasn’t impressed with Time’s efforts.

 

 

 

“That global warming is the biggest joke I’ve ever known,” Wells told the Business & Media Institute. “[W]e’ll stick a dadgum tree up somebody’s rear if they want that and think that’s going to cure something.”

 

 

 

Time managing editor Richard Stengel appeared on MSNBC April 17 and said the United States needed to make a major effort to fight climate change, and that the cover’s purpose was to liken global warming to World War II.

 

 

 

“[O]ne of the things we do in the story is we say there needs to be an effort along the lines of preparing for World War II to combat global warming and climate change,” Stengel said. “It seems to me that this is an issue that is very popular with the voters, makes a lot of sense to them and a candidate who can actually bundle it up in some grand way and say, ‘Look, we need a national and international Manhattan Project to solve this problem and my candidacy involves that.’ I don't understand why they don’t do that.”

 

 

 

Holbert, a speaking on behalf of the American Veterans Center, said the editorial decision by Time to use the photograph for the cover trivialized the cause the veterans fought for.

 

 

 

“Global warming may or may not be a significant threat to the United States,” Holbert said. “The Japanese Empire in February of 1945, however, certainly was, and this photo trivializes the most recognizable moment of one of the bloodiest battles in U.S. history. War analogies should be used sparingly by political advocates of all bents.”

 

 

 

Stengel also appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on April 17 and had no difficulty admitting the magazine needed to have a “point of view.”

 

 

 

“I think since I’ve been back at the magazine, I have felt that one of the things that’s needed in journalism is that you have to have a point of view about things,” Stengel said. “You can’t always just say ‘on the one hand, on the other’ and you decide. People trust us to make decisions. We’re experts in what we do. So I thought, you know what, if we really feel strongly about something let's just say so.”

 

 

 

Time has been banging the global warming drum for some time now. In April 2007, Time offered 51 ways to “save the planet,” which included more taxes and regulation.

 

 

 

JUST FOR KICKS TRY AND POST SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF. I KNOW IT WILL TOUGH, BUT GIVE IT A SHOT.

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JUST FOR KICKS TRY AND POST SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF. I KNOW IT WILL TOUGH, BUT GIVE IT A SHOT.

I would have but I have yet to serve in Iwo Jima But unlike me and yourself these men did risk their life there so that you could grow up to disrespect them in a free country. So thought it would be better served to read what they had to say about the picture.

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I would have but I have yet to serve in Iwo Jima But unlike me and yourself these men did risk their life there so that you could grow up to disrespect them in a free country. So thought it would be better served to read what they had to say about the picture.

;)

 

WELL, IT'S OBVIOUS THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE GI BILL BACK WHEN YOU WERE IN THE SERVICE. YOU HAVE THE GRAMMAR SKILLS OF A HORSE. I'M INTRIGUED. WHO DID YOU PROTECT ME FROM? AND, IF YOU DID IT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE RIGHTS, DO YOU GET TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO USE THOSE RIGHTS? JUST CURIOUS. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO THANK YOU. I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE DETAILS.

 

 

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If we can expect more weeks like the one we've had this past week from global warming, it'll be one war I want to lose. ^_^

 

The cover is in poor taste. Why didn't they just get four conservationists to pose like that while planting a real tree? No doubt Time knew it would be controversial, and there's no such thing as bad publicity.

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WELL, IT'S OBVIOUS THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE GI BILL BACK WHEN YOU WERE IN THE SERVICE. YOU HAVE THE GRAMMAR SKILLS OF A HORSE. I'M INTRIGUED. WHO DID YOU PROTECT ME FROM? AND, IF YOU DID IT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE RIGHTS, DO YOU GET TO TELL PEOPLE HOW TO USE THOSE RIGHTS? JUST CURIOUS. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO THANK YOU. I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE DETAILS.

 

 

Out of an idiot that doesnt know about the Caps Lock feature on his keyboard.

 

Hey jerkoff, instead of pounding on your keyboard, why dont you just go ahead and stick a garden hose up your nose, turn it on full blast, and breathe through your nose for 20 minutes. Can you do that for us? At least try.

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Good thing dear ole drunken step dad is dead. He was there and after seeing that he would be totally upset(I's use another word but it would get deleted). To the day he died he hated any made in Japan.

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Considering that the Iwo Jima photo that we all know and won all the awards was staged (the soldiers re-enacted the original raising, which even had differnt soldiers), I do not see what the problem is.

the problem is that first, you have the information wrong on the flag......the picture that represents the sacrifice and bloody battle of iwo jima is in fact the second flag to be placed on mount saribichi. The first one was planted and it immediately gave a sense of pride to those fighting. so it was decided that a larger flag should be put in its place. the famous photo is of the second flag raising. it was not a staged or posed picture. actually joe rosenthal, the photographer, almost missed the picture as he was readying his camera and turned around and just snapped the picture. he then took another picture of the marines posing around the flag that was staged. this is where the misconception of the staged flag raising comes from. irregardless to get back on topic. this picture represents the bloody battle and ultimate sacrifice that 27,909 allied men made. Think about that. 27k men died during that battle from feb 19 to march 26 1945. including over 2k the first day. This is why i object to the picture being used to focus on a possible myth. it disgraces and diminishes the courage and bravery these men showed not only in iwo jima, but all through out the pacific and european theater during ww2.

 

 

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