Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Invading Iraq was the right thing to do, but war is hell nevertheless. For a time it seemed that Iraqis might never make peace with each other. That time is past. Though violence lingers albeit on a smaller scale, many Iraqis are turning their attention to rebuilding and reconciling. War is so horrible that there could never be a good war, but this war has rendered so many benefits to Iraq, the region, and the world, that it comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Invading Iraq was the right thing to do, but war is hell nevertheless. For a time it seemed that Iraqis might never make peace with each other. That time is past. Though violence lingers albeit on a smaller scale, many Iraqis are turning their attention to rebuilding and reconciling. War is so horrible that there could never be a good war, but this war has rendered so many benefits to Iraq, the region, and the world, that it comes close. will someone please tel me why we did invade? No wmd - no alquida connection - no threat to us - no ability to threaten us - no 911 connection - no nuke prgram - WTF? cuz he was a bad guy? lots worse guys out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GALVATRON Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 will someone please tel me why we did invade? No wmd - no alquida connection - no threat to us - no ability to threaten us - no 911 connection - no nuke prgram - WTF? cuz he was a bad guy? lots worse guys out there. Yea one of them is running for the Democratic nominee,you are stupid. - no threat to us - how do you even know how to go on the internet,you are really stupid. - no 911 connection - how do you live with no brain?I thought it controlled involuntary functions,like breathing. - no nuke prgram - wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Why don't you answer these questions, Do you want to be killed by terrorists? Why do you hate Bush for trying to rid the world of terrorists? Did you see any TV footage of 9-11? What would you have done if you were President on 9-11-01,nothing? and in my opinion if a country crashes planes into civilian buildings,killing thousands of Americans(lucky for you you were not flying that day)then it becomes our business,and the Iraq people should be thanking Bush for not turning it into a crater. How many Iraqis were on the planes on 9/11? None. Did GWB tell us we were going into Iraq to fight terrorism? No. Why can't anyone answer a simple question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Yea one of them is running for the Democratic nominee,you are stupid. - no threat to us - how do you even know how to go on the internet,you are really stupid. - no 911 connection - how do you live with no brain?I thought it controlled involuntary functions,like breathing. - no nuke prgram - wow ummmm what was the 911 connection? (since all 16 agencies in charge of intelligence says there was none) What was the threat? - why do all 16 agencies in charge of intelligence gathering agree they had no nuke rogram and sought no yellowcake from niger? Also - I thought it was bush that started the war and you are saying congress did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GALVATRON Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 How many Iraqis were on the planes on 9/11? None. Did GWB tell us we were going into Iraq to fight terrorism? No. Why can't anyone answer a simple question? You will never win this argument,nobody buys this Saddam in innocent crap..... In a bombshell finding virtually ignored by the American media, a U.S. district court judge in Manhattan ruled Wednesday [May 7, 2003] that Salman Pak, Saddam Hussein's airplane hijacking school located on the outskirts of Baghdad, played a material role in the devastating Sept. 11 attacks on America. ...according to courtroom testimony by three of the camp's instructors, the facility was a virtual hijacking classroom where al-Qaeda recruits practiced overcoming U.S. flight crews using only small knives - a terrorist technique never employed before 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 will someone please tel me why we did invade? No wmd - no alquida connection - no threat to us - no ability to threaten us - no 911 connection - no nuke prgram - WTF? cuz he was a bad guy? lots worse guys out there. Gawd............do I have to put on an DELETED tutorial every day for you raving moonbats? Does anyone ever read anything here? Why did the US invade? Start here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_1441 Then proceed to here: www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html Finally, for good measure, read this: http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html Saddam never honored once the surrender agreement. Unlike you Lefty Lemmings here, I provide links, and not just liberal gibberish: "WTF? cuz he was a bad guy?" Stop playing stupid! Use all of your upper body strength to lift yourself out of your playpen and take a good look around. Educate yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GALVATRON Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 ummmm what was the 911 connection? (since all 16 agencies in charge of intelligence says there was none) What was the threat? - why do all 16 agencies in charge of intelligence gathering agree they had no nuke rogram and sought no yellowcake from niger? Also - I thought it was bush that started the war and you are saying congress did? I never typed the word congress,I just posted real evidence of Iraq connection to 9-11,why do you defend terrorists who would kill you in a second,are you part of al-Qaeda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 ummmm what was the 911 connection? (since all 16 agencies in charge of intelligence says there was none) What was the threat? - why do all 16 agencies in charge of intelligence gathering agree they had no nuke rogram and sought no yellowcake from niger? Also - I thought it was bush that started the war and you are saying congress did? What agencies in charge of intelligence say there was no Iraqi program to buy yellowcake? Do you expect us to accept your word? How pathetic. You guys simply make this stuff up as you go, and then everyone believes it after a while. Typical. Show some intellectual curiosity and read the below links. If you can contradict them, then fine. We can then have a rational debate. Otherwise, you are simply spouting Olbermann talking points. http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_words_on_iraq_uranium.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...4-2004Jul9.html http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/ http://www.slate.com/id/2146475/ Be prepared to have your assumptions shaken. It won't be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 While we're in this discussion, let’s do a little backtracking on recent history here for a minute. Let’s see if we can define how to lose a war, help bring America to its knees, create ugly partisan divide in the nation, throw an entire country in the Middle East to the wolves and do it all in just twenty steps .... (1) Saddam Hussein was a pain in the butt and was disrupting the entire region with war after war. (2) He built a nuclear plant that the Israelis took out. (3) He persisted in attempts to obtain more and deadlier weapons (also erferred to as WMD). (4) He kicked UN inspectors out of Iraq further raising fears around the world that he was still hiding or procuring WMD’s. (5) Joe Wilson is a colossal a**hole and a Democratic Party stooge who tried to cover for Saddam. (6) The President went to Congress and the United Nations and said “why don’t we take Saddam out of the picture before he makes any more trouble.” (7) The UN hedged before finally halfway agreeing - because they knew it would dry up their oil-for-food scam that they had going with Saddam. (8) Congress agreed with the President to authorize and fund the war to remove Saddam and clean up the cesspit in Iraq. (9) The war was over in a few months and Democrats in Congress began to worry that Bush was too popular and successful. (10) Democrats began whining about missing WMD’s to encourage hatred of Bush and divisiveness in the US. (11) The NY TIMES and other liberal media outlets began a campaign to publicize secret war plans to aid the terrorists rushing to Iraq for a piece of the action while Democrats secretly cheered on the “insurgents” as friends and allies in the War On Bush. (12) The United Nations set up shop in Baghdad and then ran away after the first bomb. (13) Democrats in Congress repeatedly call Pentagon officials in for grilling sessions, publicly televised of course, to whine, complain and criticize the cleanup action in Iraq. (14) Iraqis hold first free elections ever, electing a new Parliament and democratic leaders but the NY TIMES and the liberal media are too busy covering abuses at Abu Ghraib Prison to notice. (15) Progress being made in Iraq as terrorists die by the hundreds and their leaders killed or captured and sent to Guantanamo for interrogation which is criticized by the liberal media, taken to the Supreme Court by Bush-bashers but reveals tons of information on the terrorists and their organization and future plans which is used to stop dozens of planned attacks around the world, according to CIA director Tenet - a Clinton appointee. (16) Democrats nominate a lame, pitiful excuse for a human being and acknowledged gigolo to run against Bush in 2004 and voters sneer and laugh. (17) Democrats go into panic mode and using every dirty, underhanded trick in the book to nudge an election their way in 2006 barely manage to recapture the House and Senate. The Watergate crew enviously watches the Donks go far beyond anything they ever thought of. (18) Democrats immediately set about surrendering the war in Iraq, proposing cutting off funding for troops and setting a timetable so the enemy will know when we plan to run up the white flag and flee back home leaving the Iraqis to die at the hands of murdering thugs. (19) Bush says “not so fast” and slaps veto on Democrats. (20) Democrats repond by telling Bush that if he is going to be all “mean and naughty” that they are going to withdraw their authorization for the war just when things are starting to get better because they know success in Iraq means they will be hosed in the 2008 elections and forever after known as the Party of Treason, Lies, Back-Stabbing, anti-American bastards. There. Does that about sum it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 The Iraq war started in 1991 by Saddam invading Kuwait and has never ended. Nothing preventive about picking up where we left off on a just and legal war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GALVATRON Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 While we're in this discussion, let’s do a little backtracking on recent history here for a minute. Let’s see if we can define how to lose a war, help bring America to its knees, create ugly partisan divide in the nation, throw an entire country in the Middle East to the wolves and do it all in just twenty steps .... (1) Saddam Hussein was a pain in the butt and was disrupting the entire region with war after war. (2) He built a nuclear plant that the Israelis took out. (3) He persisted in attempts to obtain more and deadlier weapons (also erferred to as WMD). (4) He kicked UN inspectors out of Iraq further raising fears around the world that he was still hiding or procuring WMD’s. (5) Joe Wilson is a colossal a**hole and a Democratic Party stooge who tried to cover for Saddam. (6) The President went to Congress and the United Nations and said “why don’t we take Saddam out of the picture before he makes any more trouble.” (7) The UN hedged before finally halfway agreeing - because they knew it would dry up their oil-for-food scam that they had going with Saddam. (8) Congress agreed with the President to authorize and fund the war to remove Saddam and clean up the cesspit in Iraq. (9) The war was over in a few months and Democrats in Congress began to worry that Bush was too popular and successful. (10) Democrats began whining about missing WMD’s to encourage hatred of Bush and divisiveness in the US. (11) The NY TIMES and other liberal media outlets began a campaign to publicize secret war plans to aid the terrorists rushing to Iraq for a piece of the action while Democrats secretly cheered on the “insurgents” as friends and allies in the War On Bush. (12) The United Nations set up shop in Baghdad and then ran away after the first bomb. (13) Democrats in Congress repeatedly call Pentagon officials in for grilling sessions, publicly televised of course, to whine, complain and criticize the cleanup action in Iraq. (14) Iraqis hold first free elections ever, electing a new Parliament and democratic leaders but the NY TIMES and the liberal media are too busy covering abuses at Abu Ghraib Prison to notice. (15) Progress being made in Iraq as terrorists die by the hundreds and their leaders killed or captured and sent to Guantanamo for interrogation which is criticized by the liberal media, taken to the Supreme Court by Bush-bashers but reveals tons of information on the terrorists and their organization and future plans which is used to stop dozens of planned attacks around the world, according to CIA director Tenet - a Clinton appointee. (16) Democrats nominate a lame, pitiful excuse for a human being and acknowledged gigolo to run against Bush in 2004 and voters sneer and laugh. (17) Democrats go into panic mode and using every dirty, underhanded trick in the book to nudge an election their way in 2006 barely manage to recapture the House and Senate. The Watergate crew enviously watches the Donks go far beyond anything they ever thought of. (18) Democrats immediately set about surrendering the war in Iraq, proposing cutting off funding for troops and setting a timetable so the enemy will know when we plan to run up the white flag and flee back home leaving the Iraqis to die at the hands of murdering thugs. (19) Bush says “not so fast” and slaps veto on Democrats. (20) Democrats repond by telling Bush that if he is going to be all “mean and naughty” that they are going to withdraw their authorization for the war just when things are starting to get better because they know success in Iraq means they will be hosed in the 2008 elections and forever after known as the Party of Treason, Lies, Back-Stabbing, anti-American bastards. There. Does that about sum it up? Yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 No retreat from the War on Terror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Iraq seeks sharp reduction in U.S. military role Negotiations to begin on taking American forces out of combat http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22825800/ BAGHDAD - The United States and Iraq will soon begin negotiating a power shift for U.S. forces, nearly five years after they invaded Iraq and installed a new government, Iraqi and U.S. officials told NBC News on Thursday. For those Dem/Libs who keep asking,"What does victory in Iraq mean?" (as if you truly wanted an answer) Here is part of the answer. If the Iraqis succeed in transitioning to the lead role, it will represent a significant victory in the war on terror, and will transform the 2008 election. Instead of debating whether to bug out or keep fighting, the issue will be how best to consolidate the gains and maintain an effective presence in the region to continue to fight the terrorists. Those who declared defeat less than a year ago will have to answer for their lack of fortitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GALVATRON Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 How many Iraqis were on the planes on 9/11? None. Did GWB tell us we were going into Iraq to fight terrorism? No. Why can't anyone answer a simple question? The Demos can't FOOL everybody,where did this guy go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 You obviously didn't click the Hillary link. Go ahead. I promise it won't physically hurt. Of course, it may shake your comfortable liberal assumptions about what you THINK you know about history. Go ahead.........DOOOOOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT. Then be sure to come back. I'm not through with you yet. Say. What ever happened to the OP? Guess he's too busy trying to find Air America on his radio. Pity. I was hoping he'd come back some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guys in White Coats Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I'LL KEEP COMING FOR YOU,NO MATTER WHAT We're here for you. Sorry we took so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Henry K Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Actually the US was doing a great deal to actually prepare itself and help other before the US was attacked. The US was actually protecting merchantmen from German U-Boats and Roosevelt thought the provocation would come from the Germans. That doesn't change the fact that the US did not join the war until we were actually attacked. So you are saying that Bush and the Generals were so stupid that they could not foresee the mess we are in, that's better. The right has for years claimed that the UN has no power to compel the US to do anything. Saddam could ignore the UN all he wanted and the US didn't have to do anything. What military leader in the world would want to fight something as nebulous as "terrorism". You think a real military objective can be "terrorism'? Capture and destroy the organization that attacked us, invade Afghanistan because they gave al Qaeda sanctuary. Made sense and had the support of a lot of people. We could have done those things, mission accomplished. But no, we had to attack all terrorists and use the fear that engendered as a justification to attack Iraq. Funny how the President has been so silent from his Bully Pulpit with all of this new information proving that Iraq was indeed a threat. Drop a hydrogen bomb on Bagdad. That would have been a great legacy. It was not altogether clear that the Japanese would surrender after we dropped the bombs on them. Will all of the terrorism in the world end when the Iraq can police itself? Do you mean Sunni police, Shia police or Kurdish police? Bush will be criticized because he weakened America when it was at it's strongest point. You must think we are better off being $9T in debt with our military exhausted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 If the Dems had not been such "surrender monkeys", the terrorists in Iraq may have given up a long time ago and saved countless lives. Much of the death and destruction in Iraq can be layed at the feet of Dems, especially Reid, Pelosi, and Hillary. First for voting to send us in, and then for giving encouragement to the terrorists to continue their bombing in order to drive the US out! When we all unite to end terrorism, and let the whole world know that there is no hidey-hole that we will not pursue them down, then they will stop their murderous attacks on innocent civilians! Terrorism is like a disease; the longer you leave it untreated, the worse it becomes and the greater the threat that it will kill you. By treating it strongly, and with all of the resources you have available, you can eradicate it and keep yourself safe, and prevent it from spreading to others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 You will never win this argument,nobody buys this Saddam in innocent crap..... In a bombshell finding virtually ignored by the American media, a U.S. district court judge in Manhattan ruled Wednesday [May 7, 2003] that Salman Pak, Saddam Hussein's airplane hijacking school located on the outskirts of Baghdad, played a material role in the devastating Sept. 11 attacks on America. ...according to courtroom testimony by three of the camp's instructors, the facility was a virtual hijacking classroom where al-Qaeda recruits practiced overcoming U.S. flight crews using only small knives - a terrorist technique never employed before 9/11. Are you for real? or are you just being funny? Flight school outside Bagdad? come on dude - get real or get on meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Gawd............do I have to put on an DELETED tutorial every day for you raving moonbats? Does anyone ever read anything here? Why did the US invade? Start here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_1441 Then proceed to here: www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html Finally, for good measure, read this: http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html Saddam never honored once the surrender agreement. Unlike you Lefty Lemmings here, I provide links, and not just liberal gibberish: "WTF? cuz he was a bad guy?" Stop playing stupid! Use all of your upper body strength to lift yourself out of your playpen and take a good look around. Educate yourself! so we invaded because he did not honor the surrender agreements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I never typed the word congress,I just posted real evidence of Iraq connection to 9-11,why do you defend terrorists who would kill you in a second,are you part of al-Qaeda? But Bush. Cheney and all 16 agencies responsible for intelligence say there was no Iraq 911 connection. Are they all lying to us? and I would kill a tedrroist in a second - it is just that there were not any of them in Iraq. Until we invaded anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 While we're in this discussion, let’s do a little backtracking on recent history here for a minute. Let’s see if we can define how to lose a war, help bring America to its knees, create ugly partisan divide in the nation, throw an entire country in the Middle East to the wolves and do it all in just twenty steps .... (1) Saddam Hussein was a pain in the butt and was disrupting the entire region with war after war. (2) He built a nuclear plant that the Israelis took out. (3) He persisted in attempts to obtain more and deadlier weapons (also erferred to as WMD). (4) He kicked UN inspectors out of Iraq further raising fears around the world that he was still hiding or procuring WMD’s. (5) Joe Wilson is a colossal a**hole and a Democratic Party stooge who tried to cover for Saddam. (6) The President went to Congress and the United Nations and said “why don’t we take Saddam out of the picture before he makes any more trouble.” (7) The UN hedged before finally halfway agreeing - because they knew it would dry up their oil-for-food scam that they had going with Saddam. (8) Congress agreed with the President to authorize and fund the war to remove Saddam and clean up the cesspit in Iraq. (9) The war was over in a few months and Democrats in Congress began to worry that Bush was too popular and successful. (10) Democrats began whining about missing WMD’s to encourage hatred of Bush and divisiveness in the US. (11) The NY TIMES and other liberal media outlets began a campaign to publicize secret war plans to aid the terrorists rushing to Iraq for a piece of the action while Democrats secretly cheered on the “insurgents” as friends and allies in the War On Bush. (12) The United Nations set up shop in Baghdad and then ran away after the first bomb. (13) Democrats in Congress repeatedly call Pentagon officials in for grilling sessions, publicly televised of course, to whine, complain and criticize the cleanup action in Iraq. (14) Iraqis hold first free elections ever, electing a new Parliament and democratic leaders but the NY TIMES and the liberal media are too busy covering abuses at Abu Ghraib Prison to notice. (15) Progress being made in Iraq as terrorists die by the hundreds and their leaders killed or captured and sent to Guantanamo for interrogation which is criticized by the liberal media, taken to the Supreme Court by Bush-bashers but reveals tons of information on the terrorists and their organization and future plans which is used to stop dozens of planned attacks around the world, according to CIA director Tenet - a Clinton appointee. (16) Democrats nominate a lame, pitiful excuse for a human being and acknowledged gigolo to run against Bush in 2004 and voters sneer and laugh. (17) Democrats go into panic mode and using every dirty, underhanded trick in the book to nudge an election their way in 2006 barely manage to recapture the House and Senate. The Watergate crew enviously watches the Donks go far beyond anything they ever thought of. (18) Democrats immediately set about surrendering the war in Iraq, proposing cutting off funding for troops and setting a timetable so the enemy will know when we plan to run up the white flag and flee back home leaving the Iraqis to die at the hands of murdering thugs. (19) Bush says “not so fast” and slaps veto on Democrats. (20) Democrats repond by telling Bush that if he is going to be all “mean and naughty” that they are going to withdraw their authorization for the war just when things are starting to get better because they know success in Iraq means they will be hosed in the 2008 elections and forever after known as the Party of Treason, Lies, Back-Stabbing, anti-American bastards. There. Does that about sum it up? You made a funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 No retreat from the War on Terror I did not know that there were terrorists in Iraq before we invaded. oh - there wasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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