Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 The company had to compensate for the losses. let us take three separate planes to DC and talk about it woodchuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 You're both right. The companies should not have granted it, but were more interested in short-term profits and avoiding a protracted conflict than in long-term viability. The union leadership should not have demanded it, but were more interested in placating their members now, when they were getting paid, than later, when it would all be somebody else's problem. Same reason many unions end up negotiating mass layoffs over pay cuts: if some people lose their jobs entirely, they aren't in the union anymore and can't punish the leadership, whereas if everyone loses 10% of their pay, they're probably going to be upset enough to rock the organization. The incentives of labor negotiations are completely screwed up, and it leads to some pretty stupid results. When I see some unions not wanting to even give an inch in dire times, like many other unions have given back already, it would not surprise me if that governor lays off 5k to get his message across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 let us take three separate planes to DC and talk about it woodchuck They already owned them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 They already owned them. Are you fucking serious? You are sticking up for them? You don't know the costs involved in flying three different planes from the same location to the same location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 When I see some unions not wanting to even give an inch in dire times, like many other unions have given back already, it would not surprise me if that governor lays off 5k to get his message across. He mentioned 5,000-6,000 state workers and 5,000-6,000 local government workers getting canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Are you fucking serious? You are sticking up for them? You don't know the costs involved in flying three different planes from the same location to the same location? Did three small commuter Lear jets cost moocho bucks? Not at all. If they were huge airliners, that would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Did three small commuter Lear jets cost moocho bucks? Not at all. If they were huge airliners, that would be a different story. Nothing like taking three private jets from one airport to another to beg for money. You should research how much they cost an hour to fly before you defend those millionaires working for those billion dollar companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Did three small commuter Lear jets cost moocho bucks? Not at all. If they were huge airliners, that would be a different story. Those expenses cannot be tolerated! Only in times of dire need and extremely important meetings should such carbon footprints be made, such as climate change conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Those expenses cannot be tolerated! Only in times of dire need and extremely important meetings should such carbon footprints be made, such as climate change conferences. local rent a center woodchuck proves it's ignorance once again good puppet have a cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 local rent a center woodchuck proves it's ignorance once again good puppet have a cookie Hey, did you hear? Your guys lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Those expenses cannot be tolerated! Only in times of dire need and extremely important meetings should such carbon footprints be made, such as climate change conferences. .. and also when Nancy Pelosi goes shopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 local rent a center woodchuck proves it's ignorance once again good puppet have a cookie Global warming is a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 .. and also when Nancy Pelosi goes shopping. Talk about abusing Air Force planes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Nothing like taking three private jets from one airport to another to beg for money. You should research how much they cost an hour to fly before you defend those millionaires working for those billion dollar companies. Minuscule in the grand scheme of things. I see you are jealous of their paychecks like most liberals are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hey, did you hear? Your guys lost. .. and also when Nancy Pelosi goes shopping. Global warming is a farce. Talk about abusing Air Force planes! when confronted with facts local rent a center woodchucks try diversion to avoid exposing their ignorance and fail miserably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 when confronted with facts local rent a center woodchucks try diversion to avoid exposing their ignorance and fail miserably No older than 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bonham Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 He mentioned 5,000-6,000 state workers and 5,000-6,000 local government workers getting canned. That would be a good Start! Did you hear the latest? UNION heads DEMANDED the teachers to get back to the classrooms! Now why would anyone, Propagandists or not go back to the classrooms if they believe they are doing the Tight thing by costing Working people in the Private Sector their jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 when confronted with facts local rent a center woodchucks try diversion to avoid exposing their ignorance and fail miserably Do you think the guy who uses the words "local rent a center woodchuck" after getting schooled in debates understands the irony his last statement? Probably not. After all, he hasn't even learned capitalization yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 do the tight thing woodchuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Do you think the guy who uses the words "local rent a center woodchuck" after getting schooled in debates understands the irony his last statement? Probably not. After all, he hasn't even learned capitalization yet. trying to keep it simple for the local simpleton woodchucks if i type slower will you then understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Wanna see liberal woodchucks? Drive through the ghettos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 trying to keep it simple for the local simpleton woodchucks if i type slower will you then understand? You type like that liberal gift shop guy, Rocco. But that can't be. He said he was leaving this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 The teachers have agreed to the economic concessions, even though the crisis is a creation of tax cuts the governor is giving to business. The problem is he will not compromise, he will not talk. So, what was the purpose of this whole thing? Union busting. Check it out. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703407304576154951119807240.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 The teachers have agreed to the economic concessions, even though the crisis is a creation of tax cuts the governor is giving to business. The problem is he will not compromise, he will not talk. So, what was the purpose of this whole thing? Union busting. Check it out. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703407304576154951119807240.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories Those tax cuts did not add 4 billion dollars to the budget since 2008. Things like welfare and education costs did. When you have -3.6 billion dollars, how does compromise work? Tell ya what, we'll give you x more dollars that we don't have, just so we can have -4.9 billion dollars next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 even though the crisis is a creation of tax cuts the governor is giving to business. Proof? Mr.Rachel Maddow is hardly proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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