Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 OOH OOH The numbers pale, so it must be easy to throw them up! Certainly gun ownership is as essential to daily life as automobile travel or medical treatment. After all you need to shoot the deer for dinner or defend yourself from an indian attack or invasion by redcoats and tories. If a three round clip is good then a 30 round clip must be a 1000% better. Just think how much safer you would be if you didn't have to pull the trigger for each shot. A claymore at the front door would put a damper on home invasions. And wouldn't the refs at the local high school game do better if they knew the fans were packin. I would think that the teachers with guns in the Utah classrooms would be protected from accidental shootings. Statistically there has to be a certain number of gun accidents per thousand. If the number of guns in a classroom goes from zero to thousands, there has to be collateral damage, poor little collaterals. Life would be serene if the government required every citizen to be armed at all times, then nothing bad could happen. No need to continue to prove how ignorant and immature your thinking is. You have done so already. Numerous times. Every time you post actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 And there lies the problem this country has. Liberals/progressives/democrats/communists/socialists have never been fond of the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights. They always view them as a "problem." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 The best sarcastic comments are the ones that are most true. Obviously the NRA and the "They're gonna take all our guns away!!" Registration comes before confiscation. Registration leads to confiscation when the political environment is favorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Judging by your incoherent ramblings it's apparent you never finished grade school. If you need me to explain this to you, let me know. I'm not very good with children, but I will do my best. Funny Israel shows less than 5 guns per 100 and just less than 2 deaths per 100 K. Just less than Norway. Seems the guy from Norway just kept up that average for the next 15 years if no one else is killed by a gun during that time. Switzerland only shows around 35 per hundred but almost everyone has a gun. For some reason Mexico is absent? Must be no one has a gun there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Funny Israel shows less than 5 guns per 100 and just less than 2 deaths per 100 K. Just less than Norway. Seems the guy from Norway just kept up that average for the next 15 years if no one else is killed by a gun during that time. Switzerland only shows around 35 per hundred but almost everyone has a gun. For some reason Mexico is absent? Must be no one has a gun there. Where is Mexico? This graph has been torn to pieces. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Ownership comes before registration, registration comes before confiscation, confiscation comes before safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Registration comes before confiscation. Registration leads to confiscation when the political environment is favorable. Liberals/progressives/democrats/communists/socialists have never been fond of the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights. They always view them as a "problem." Mentally unstable people like you are not allowed to own firearms so it's a mute point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Mentally unstable people like you are not allowed to own firearms so it's a mute point. He is stating lessons learned from history. Your ignorance of it makes your opinion less than worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Mentally unstable people like you are not allowed to own firearms so it's a mute point. Confiscation has never happened. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Ownership comes before registration, registration comes before confiscation, confiscation comes before safety. Ah the slippery slope fallacy...a classic. Almost 95% of the arguments I hear from the right boil down to nothing more than this logical fallacy... pathetic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Ah the slippery slope fallacy...a classic. Almost 95% of the arguments I hear from the right boil down to nothing more than this logical fallacy... pathetic. http://en.wikipedia..../Slippery_slope This is the way it happened in other countries. Why would it not happen here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 This is the way it happened in other countries. Why would it not happen here? Because we are America, not Germany. The saying "those who fail to remember the past, are doomed to repeat it" left off the most important part. "those who live in the past, will forever remain in it". The world is changing soooo fast and if we don't let go of our fears of progress America will fall behind, it's already is starting to. Example: for the first time in history the US Constitution is no longer the most used model for other democracies, it has been replaced by the Canadian Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Don't confuse retardius with the facts. He has his baseless and ignorant belief system to back him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Don't confuse retardius with the facts. He has his baseless and ignorant belief system to back him up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection "Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings.[1]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Mentally unstable people like you are not allowed to own firearms so it's a mute point. Too late they already do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Mentally unstable people like you are not allowed to own firearms so it's a mute point. Too late they already do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Otis Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 This is the way it happened in other countries. Why would it not happen here? I don't know. Maybe things like the internet, cell phones and a better educated population would make the American public better able to self-assure the stability of the Constitution than they were able to in 1776. The whole 'the gubmint is gonna take over" and "Chicken Little is coming to take every single gun away from everyone" shrieks have been simply ludicrous for decades. I used to work with a guy who used to regale me with his philosophy about how the internet is evil and the gubmint is gonna use it to make slaves of us all. I used to act like I was intensely interested while I was just humoring him. He's bats**t crazy, but good for a laugh. he finally got fired after working the same job for 35 years for yelling stuff like that in the halls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Canada: The handgun registration law of 1934 was the source used to identify and confiscate (without compensation) over half of the registered handguns in 2001. Germany: The 1928 Law on Firearms and Ammunition (before the Nazis came into power) required all firearms to be registered. When Hitler came into power, the existing lists were used for confiscating weapons. Australia: In 1996, the Australian government confiscated over 660,000 previously legal weapons from their citizens. California: The 1989 Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act required registration. Due to shifting definitions of “assault weapons,” many legal firearms are now being confiscated by the California government. New York City: In 1967, New York City passed an ordinance requiring a citizen to obtain a permit to own a rifle or shotgun, which would then be registered. In 1991, the city passed a ban on the private possession of some semi-automatic rifles and shotguns, and “registered” owners were told that those firearms had to be surrendered, rendered inoperable, or taken out of the city. Others: Bermuda, Cuba, Greece, Ireland, Jamaica, and Soviet Georgia as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Canada: The handgun registration law of 1934 was the source used to identify and confiscate (without compensation) over half of the registered handguns in 2001. Germany: The 1928 Law on Firearms and Ammunition (before the Nazis came into power) required all firearms to be registered. When Hitler came into power, the existing lists were used for confiscating weapons. Australia: In 1996, the Australian government confiscated over 660,000 previously legal weapons from their citizens. California: The 1989 Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act required registration. Due to shifting definitions of “assault weapons,” many legal firearms are now being confiscated by the California government. New York City: In 1967, New York City passed an ordinance requiring a citizen to obtain a permit to own a rifle or shotgun, which would then be registered. In 1991, the city passed a ban on the private possession of some semi-automatic rifles and shotguns, and “registered” owners were told that those firearms had to be surrendered, rendered inoperable, or taken out of the city. Others: Bermuda, Cuba, Greece, Ireland, Jamaica, and Soviet Georgia as well. This proves what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 It proves he knows how to cut and paste from an NRA sponsered blog. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 This proves what exactly? Their is a history of gun confiscation and the democrats want it started here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Their is a history of gun confiscation and the democrats want it started here. I pray to God you don't have any children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gun Nut Gus Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Their is a history of gun confiscation and the democrats want it started here. Here you go. http://upcreek.tripo...ickenlittle.htm Please go join and stop posting here about confiscation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Ah the slippery slope fallacy...a classic. Almost 95% of the arguments I hear from the right boil down to nothing more than this logical fallacy... pathetic. http://en.wikipedia..../Slippery_slope Please tell me what the plan is then to make sure all the previous gun owners comply with the new registration law should it pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Please tell me what the plan is then to make sure all the previous gun owners comply with the new registration law should it pass? A lot of those records already exist at the dealer. Every time you buy a firearm in NY you have to fill out a couple pages and the firearm information is recorded there. It is maintained by the dealer and is subject to review by Feds and state authorities. Doesn't happen very often and they don't check much is what I was told. But the records are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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