Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 How much did the aquatics addition cost? How much did the stadium cost? How much do athletics cost every year? How much does the dunce AD make? The answer to these is mind boggling, yet our music departments run on close to nothing. This is all duplicated in all 13 Broome County school districts. Together they spend nearly a half billion dollars in 180 days. A staggering amount of money in a depressed area like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 The great thing about democracy is that all of you fine people will have the opportunity to run for the school board in six months. Too late to fix the current mess but you can sure clean house then. Until then you have the opportunity to attend all of the board meetings to get a feel for the office and work out details about how to bring down the mighty union. Perhaps you could take a course on education law or teaching techniques at a local college, it should not take much effort . It will be interesting so see the great changes in ME a year from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ghost of X-mas future Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Amen! And don't make the same mistake as the current crop of fools has: Have an understanding of business and finance fundamentals. The great thing about democracy is that all of you fine people will have the opportunity to run for the school board in six months. Too late to fix the current mess but you can sure clean house then. Until then you have the opportunity to attend all of the board meetings to get a feel for the office and work out details about how to bring down the mighty union. Perhaps you could take a course on education law or teaching techniques at a local college, it should not take much effort . It will be interesting so see the great changes in ME a year from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GUEST Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 That's all well and good, but I just want a Board who won't be running a popularity contest - as apposed to the last four years. Amen! And don't make the same mistake as the current crop of fools has: Have an understanding of business and finance fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Can anyone explain who these people are and possibly why they are giving out 5 year contracts with nearly a 25% pay increase? It is reminiscent of the Village of Johnson City debacle the fire service. With a lucrative contract such as that they must be allied or just incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Can anyone explain who these people are and possibly why they are giving out 5 year contracts with nearly a 25% pay increase? It is reminiscent of the Village of Johnson City debacle the fire service. With a lucrative contract such as that they must be allied or just incompetent. The school board isn’t a lucrative position.The people that run for this have a reason why and you will usually find that they just want a better school system or they have a agenda. If you check the background of the school board you will find that most if not all have some connection to the teachers and their union.Of course that isn’t hard in a town where everyone has a chance of being related to some one that works for one of the school systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 The school board isn’t a lucrative position.The people that run for this have a reason why and you will usually find that they just want a better school system or they have a agenda. If you check the background of the school board you will find that most if not all have some connection to the teachers and their union.Of course that isn’t hard in a town where everyone has a chance of being related to some one that works for one of the school systems. Hence the small town. All the geniuses on this thread can officially fuck off now. You show up and complain about teachers but take no accountability for a foreseeable problem. You all loved the teachers when your kids are testing in the top 1% of the state but now you hate them, sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 That's all well and good, but I just want a Board who won't be running a popularity contest - as apposed to the last four years. 4 of the current crop of board members were just elected for the first time this year and then this crisis was exposed. I'm thinking the change from the past 4 yours has already started, unfortunately just a little too late, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 You ever wonder why school districts seem to do what they want, whenever they want? Nearly 9 million dollars in political contributions to politicians in the last 8 years alone. Mostly to Democrats. Ever hear them whine about unfunded NYS mandates? There are very few mandates that the teachers union didn't ask for or approve of. TABLE 1: Total NEW YORK STATE UNITED TEACHERS Contributions from 2004 to 2012 Contribution Source Included in Total? Total NEW YORK STATE UNITED TEACHERS* always $8,902,255 Grand Total $8,902,255 (See Records) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Be Fair to them. 4 of the current crop of board members were just elected for the first time this year and then this crisis was exposed. I'm thinking the change from the past 4 yours has already started, unfortunately just a little too late, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 spoken like the stereotypical teacher. well done. Hence the small town. All the geniuses on this thread can officially fuck off now. You show up and complain about teachers but take no accountability for a foreseeable problem. You all loved the teachers when your kids are testing in the top 1% of the state but now you hate them, sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fried Egg Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Be Fair to them. Agreed, this was a bad decision 3 years a ago to not cut spending period and throw savings at the problem so noone lost a job. Now they have no money left and need to make the cuts they should have yeara ago. The contract that was done for the 5 year deal made the problem that much worse and throw in pension and health care cost increases and you have a mess. But don't blame the unions:) They all had a chance to renegotiate contracts the past several years, no dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hence the small town. All the geniuses on this thread can officially fuck off now. You show up and complain about teachers but take no accountability for a foreseeable problem. You all loved the teachers when your kids are testing in the top 1% of the state but now you hate them, sounds good. I bet you complain that: -you have to "take work home with you" and do lesson plans on your own time -use your own money to provide supplies -think the new state guidelines handed down by Albany are "complete and utter BS" and nothing but unnecessary paperwork -are still paying back your student loans on your Masters that was required to be a teacher -kids these days are unappreciative and it's all bad parenting However I bet you don't complain -all summer long -ability to have a summer full time or part time gig to pad your income -snow days -MLK, Columbus, 4 day Presidents weekend, Xmas break, Easter break, Thanksgiving break, Veterans Day -when you're out the door as soon as possible on a Friday headed to the nearest watering hole with other "underpaid and under appreciated teachers (can't stay late on a Friday after all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I bet you complain that: -you have to "take work home with you" and do lesson plans on your own time -use your own money to provide supplies -think the new state guidelines handed down by Albany are "complete and utter BS" and nothing but unnecessary paperwork -are still paying back your student loans on your Masters that was required to be a teacher -kids these days are unappreciative and it's all bad parenting However I bet you don't complain -all summer long -ability to have a summer full time or part time gig to pad your income -snow days -MLK, Columbus, 4 day Presidents weekend, Xmas break, Easter break, Thanksgiving break, Veterans Day -when you're out the door as soon as possible on a Friday headed to the nearest watering hole with other "underpaid and under appreciated teachers (can't stay late on a Friday after all) You forgot 3 personal days, 3 days for church. 12 sick days that they can accumulate with no limit. 12 sick days? They only work 9 months a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 They only work 9 months a year. Teaching is not "work." It is not a real job. The only real jobs are in the private sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Teaching is not "work." It is not a real job. The only real jobs are in the private sector. Teaching must be work because they get paid for it. In turn because they get paid it must be a job.Now it is a part time job but a job none the less still called a job.. There are jobs in all sectors that don’t look much like work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Teaching is not "work." It is not a real job. The only real jobs are in the private sector. I am not a teacher. I am disgusted with this mess, the irresponsibility of the boards, and the disgraceful unions. However, I know how hards teachers work. They work from morning until night. It is a thankless job. And, teachers now have to worry about things like what happened in Newtown. If you're going to make complaints, at least be fair. I appreciate the teachers who teach my children. I remember my favorite teachers and how much i learned from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I am not a teacher. I am disgusted with this mess, the irresponsibility of the boards, and the disgraceful unions. However, I know how hards teachers work. They work from morning until night. It is a thankless job. And, teachers now have to worry about things like what happened in Newtown. If you're going to make complaints, at least be fair. I appreciate the teachers who teach my children. I remember my favorite teachers and how much i learned from them. Morning to night? So in other words, like the rest of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Here's what you people seem to be forgetting: Public schools are socialist tax-sucking scams. They are anti-American. The sooner we abolish them the better off everyone will be. Education is supposed to be provided by families and churches, not the government. That's what the Founding Fathers called for. Get the government out of the education business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Here's what you people seem to be forgetting: Public schools are socialist tax-sucking scams. They are anti-American. The sooner we abolish them the better off everyone will be. Education is supposed to be provided by families and churches, not the government. That's what the Founding Fathers called for. Get the government out of the education business! Sure they did. And I bet you know what they ate for breakfast too. Silly woodchuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Introduction: Why Education Spending is THE State Budget Issue http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa662.pdf State and local budgets are in sorry shape. Collectively, the states came up more than $158 billion short of projected tax revenue when planning their budgets for 2010 in 2009.1 In response, more than 30 states raised taxes and 43 reduced services.2 As the economy deteriorated and tax revenue plum- meted more quickly than expected, 39 states discovered additional budget shortfalls of nearly $34 billion.3 Together, these shortfalls add up to the largest gap on record, 28 per- cent of the general fund budgets for 2010.4 The near future looks even bleaker than the present. As unemployment remains high and home prices fall or stagnate, states are facing an even larger estimated shortfall of $180 billion for 2011 and another $120 billion for 2012.5 Compounding the growing problems at the state and local levels, federal stimulus funds used this year and next year to close shortfalls will evaporate, and most states’ reserves were tapped long ago. The worst, in other words, is yet to come. So what is to be done? Where can we cut unnecessary programs or increase efficiency in core services? Where can we save the most money? The answer is education. K–12 schooling is the biggest item on state and local budgets. How big? Based on the 2005–2006 totals from the National Center for Education Statistics updated to 2009 dollars, state and local governments are spending well over $500 billion on public K–12 education. The Bush and Obama administrations have overseen a startling increase in the federal in- volvement in and funding of K–12 education, but state and local governments still provide the vast majority of funds. The federal govern- ment provides just 9 percent of education funds, compared to 44 percent from local sources and 47 percent from states.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 The Cato Institute is an American libertarianthink tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded as the Charles Koch Foundation. lol Silly teabagger. We see through your corporate-backed BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I am not responsible for providing or paying for your kid's education. Learn responsibility and pay for it yourself. End the socialist scam of stealing money from people by "taxing" them to pay for the government to do thigs people should be dong for themselves. Erase education from all government budgets. Cut it out. Completely to zero. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I am not responsible for providing or paying for your kid's education. Learn responsibility and pay for it yourself. End the socialist scam of stealing money from people by "taxing" them to pay for the government to do thigs people should be dong for themselves. Erase education from all government budgets. Cut it out. Completely to zero. Problem solved. That's what we need in this country. More buffoons like you. Did you sign the pledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 It is a parents sacred responsibility to provide for the education of there children. The most irresponsible and unAmerican thing a parent could ever do is to demand that the government provide it for them. Really, very few things are as offensive and irresponsible as that. Educate your own kids. Stop the insane reliance on government. Government is the problem. The less we have of it, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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