Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 It is a parents sacred responsibility to provide for the education of there children. The most irresponsible and unAmerican thing a parent could ever do is to demand that the government provide it for them. Really, very few things are as offensive and irresponsible as that. Educate your own kids. Stop the insane reliance on government. Government is the problem. The less we have of it, the better. So sayeth the Koch brothers. The less government there is, the more they will profit. Silly woodchuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 from morning until happy hour, is more like it these days. I am not a teacher. I am disgusted with this mess, the irresponsibility of the boards, and the disgraceful unions. However, I know how hards teachers work. They work from morning until night. It is a thankless job. And, teachers now have to worry about things like what happened in Newtown. If you're going to make complaints, at least be fair. I appreciate the teachers who teach my children. I remember my favorite teachers and how much i learned from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 I am not responsible for providing or paying for your kid's education. Learn responsibility and pay for it yourself. End the socialist scam of stealing money from people by "taxing" them to pay for the government to do thigs people should be dong for themselves. Erase education from all government budgets. Cut it out. Completely to zero. Problem solved. Unless you have no means of support and do not own a home,then sadly you are partially responsible for supporting their kids. The laws of NY have made you responsible for it through your tax on your home and income.You do have a vote on a portion of what your tax dollar is spent on but oddly enough so do the people that don’t contribute anything at all except their children that you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ghost of X-mas future Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Let's try to stay on topic. I'm not sure what the Koch Bros. have to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Let's try to stay on topic. I'm not sure what the Koch Bros. have to do with this? Koch brothers, Tea Party cash drives Michigan right-to-work bill http://www.salon.com/2012/12/11/koch_brothers_tea_party_cash_drives_michigan_right_to_work_bill/ Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions http://www.forbes.co...-public-unions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ghost Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 The Koch bros didn't put the last contract in front of the union. Of course the union signed it! Anyone would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 The Koch bros didn't put the last contract in front of the union. Of course the union signed it! Anyone would have. Try and look at the bigger picture not just one town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ghost Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This is a local matter. Other LOCAL districts have begun making the tough choices. All accept sacred ME. Why is that? Obama? Koch Bros? No to both. The only tough choice was how to pay for a proposed parking lot. Take the tinfoil hat off and look at the facts. Try and look at the bigger picture not just one town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This is a local matter. Other LOCAL districts have begun making the tough choices. All accept sacred ME. Why is that? Obama? Koch Bros? No to both. The only tough choice was how to pay for a proposed parking lot. Take the tinfoil hat off and look at the facts. so we should ACCEPT ME as sacred? or all other districts are making changes EXCEPT ME? im confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ghost Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 My bad. In a topic about school, I should have self checked myself. Sorry if I added to your confusion. I should have typed 'except'. Will you be at the Jan 10th meeting, like myself? Or will you be holed up in your apartment, ready to pound the keyboard? If you don't go, I'll gladly report how many times "Koch Bros" are mentioned. so we should ACCEPT ME as sacred? or all other districts are making changes EXCEPT ME? im confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Can anyone explain who these people are and possibly why they are giving out 5 year contracts with nearly a 25% pay increase? It is reminiscent of the Village of Johnson City debacle the fire service. With a lucrative contract such as that they must be allied or just incompetent. Years ago, Dennis Cochardo was a quality manager at IBM. Todd McCarthy was the general manager of WKGB FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Koch brothers, Tea Party cash drives Michigan right-to-work bill http://www.salon.com/2012/12/11/koch_brothers_tea_party_cash_drives_michigan_right_to_work_bill/ Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions http://www.forbes.co...-public-unions/ From what I can see is the right to work rule all it does the unions don’t like is the fact they can no longer force people that do not wish to contribute to the union to do so.It makes the union sound like the mafia “you want to work here you pay us” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 This is a local matter. Other LOCAL districts have begun making the tough choices. All accept sacred ME. Why is that? Obama? Koch Bros? No to both. The only tough choice was how to pay for a proposed parking lot. Take the tinfoil hat off and look at the facts. The facts are there are too many school districts in this area and they need to be consolidated. CV and CF are looking into it. JC, ME and UE should look into it as well. What is more valuable to your children? The sports rivalries or their education? Laying off the teachers in the districts only hurts the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ghost Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Moreover, the Kochs didn't arm-twist us to outdo the other school's pool or football field. We ran the bill up, so now it's time to pay OR actually come to a realistic plan to pay it without hurting the taxpayer (too much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Koch brothers, Tea Party cash drives Michigan right-to-work bill http://www.salon.com/2012/12/11/koch_brothers_tea_party_cash_drives_michigan_right_to_work_bill/ Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions http://www.forbes.co...-public-unions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redumblican Teabagger Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Peecture of bumper sticker! You winz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest** Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 what's on the back of your Prius? Peecture of bumper sticker! You winz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 The facts are there are too many school districts in this area and they need to be consolidated. CV and CF are looking into it. JC, ME and UE should look into it as well. What is more valuable to your children? The sports rivalries or their education? Laying off the teachers in the districts only hurts the kids. Fact is the sports are important to a lot the the students and their parents. Otherwise you wouldn’t have the money input to this ever of been allowed.The education of the students is important also and no parent or student wants to see a teacher laid off.The problem is ever since the 70’s everyone has gotten almost everything they wanted.The politicians got support from the teachers union and the union got support from the politicians. This arrangement gave us the highest paid teachers with the best benefits in the nation. Unfortunately it didn’t give us the best schools it just gave us the highest costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Fact is the sports are important to a lot the the students and their parents. Otherwise you wouldn’t have the money input to this ever of been allowed.The education of the students is important also and no parent or student wants to see a teacher laid off. Take your pick. Sports or education. We can't afford both anymore. It seems the education part comes in second to a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 When did BC Voice get so liberal? The conservative position on this is clear: Abolish so-called "public" education and return to the proper system advocated by the Founding Fathers. Education is the responsibility of parents, and no one else. It should be provided and paid for by them, or by churches. No other position is compatible with the American values of freedom and personal responsibility. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 When did BCVoice posters become radical extremists with no concept of present day reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 When did BC Voice get so liberal? The conservative position on this is clear: Abolish so-called "public" education and return to the proper system advocated by the Founding Fathers. Education is the responsibility of parents, and no one else. It should be provided and paid for by them, or by churches. No other position is compatible with the American values of freedom and personal responsibility. Period. Are you talking about the US founding fathers? In that case you’re partially correct. The states have the power over their educational system. The federal government is edging in now though by giving almost 10% to the schools.Still NYS says that everyone that has a home and or a job will take part in the education of the states children,if you like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 To the extent that the FF were the rich elite, private education would be personally fine with them. Free public education goes back a long time in our history as the foundation of our democratic republic. You might want to refer to the organization of the North West territories, land grant colleges, etc. What kind of citizen begrudges children an education? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 What kind of citizen begrudges children an education? The kind that actually believes in America, and our core values of freedom and personal responsibility. Also the kind that doesn't think it's ok for government to steal money from us by "taxing" our incomes. Taxes are just a liberal socialist way of making stealing sound moral. It isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2012 Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 When did BCVoice posters become radical extremists with no concept of present day reality? Some present day reality....... G. TEACHER ASSIGNMENTS Definition – The normal teaching day shall be seven and one-half (7.5) hours as assigned by the District, except on Fridays and the day preceding a day when students and teachers will not be in attendance, in which event the teachers’ day may terminate when all pupils are dismissed. Elementary art and music teachers may be assigned up to two hundred seventy (270) minutes of instruction/supervision per day. Maine-Endwell Teachers’ Association Contract 2008-2013 Page 6 ARTICLE X – OBSERVATION/EVALUATION & RECORDS A. PERSONNEL AND PROCEDURES 1. Personnel Only certified administrators and administrative interns of the Maine- Endwell School District shall be authorized to formally observe teachers. Only certified administrators of the Maine-Endwell School District shall be authorized to formally evaluate teachers. 2. Secret Monitoring All monitoring or observation of the work performance of the teacher, to be used as part of the evaluation process, shall be conducted openly and with the full knowledge of the teacher. 3. Outside Activities The private personal life of a teacher shall not be valid consideration for the evaluation of teacher performance except as it may adversely affect the teacher’s discharge of professional responsibilities. Maine-Endwell Teachers’ Association Contract 2008-2013 Page 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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