Binghamton University Offers "Stop White People" Course. Story Makes Drudge.

[ginger]

OMG I have the Kelly File on right now and they're talking about this-someone named Ben Shapiro is speaking with her!!! Darn, now I have to rewind to hear what they said!!!

[Caveman]

It's everywhere now...even all over FB. There is a large calling to stop donations and funding...not that any of that will happen. It's all the talk down here. BU better start their apologetic tour and distance themselves from this blunder as far as possible.....some firing needs to be accomplished! Maybe even offer some new courses such as "College Course Stupidity in Today's Society"....

[Bingoloid]

It's everywhere now...even all over FB. There is a large calling to stop donations and funding...not that any of that will happen. It's all the talk down here. BU better start their apologetic tour and fire the RA's....Maybe offer some new courses such as "College Course Stupidity in Today's Society"....

 

They screwed the pooch on that statement and made it sound like it was their position that the critics were the clueless ones and everything is fine. In general, you don't double down on stupid. You acknowledge that there's a problem and make it clear that you're taking care of it.

 

I didn't get the reference, but neither did they, and even if you do, it's just unprofessional. They could have taken a step and acknowledged that there was bad judgment and immaturity involved. "While no offense was intended by any of the students involved, the title clearly carries an inappropriate connotation that does not comply with our published guidelines for RA conduct. This is unacceptable, and all RAs and professional staff will receive additional training on their responsibility to the university, to the student body, and to the general public as representatives of the university community."

[PeteMoss]

 

They screwed the pooch on that statement and made it sound like it was their position that the critics were the clueless ones and everything is fine. In general, you don't double down on stupid. You acknowledge that there's a problem and make it clear that you're taking care of it.

 

I didn't get the reference, but neither did they, and even if you do, it's just unprofessional. They could have taken a step and acknowledged that there was bad judgment and immaturity involved. "While no offense was intended by any of the students involved, the title clearly carries an inappropriate connotation that does not comply with our published guidelines for RA conduct. This is unacceptable, and all RAs and professional staff will receive additional training on their responsibility to the university, to the student body, and to the general public as representatives of the university community."

You are smooth!

[ginger]

Honestly I have no idea what they are trying to say by "when confronted by 'good' arguments from uneducated people..." Arguments about what and who are these uneducated people that you are encountering in the course of your duties as a RA?

 

That's the point it all makes very little sense because it was written by moronic college kids. I'm just not sure what you guys are tyring to turn this into, or what you want to see as the resolution of it?

I think their parents should take away their credit cards for a month.

[ginger]

Woke up this morning got myself a ...

[Property & Casualty]

BU has what I would describe as an "environment of institutional racism". They have a Chief Diversity Officer, and a number of Diversity Specialists on the taxpayer funded payroll, none of whom are white. Let's be honest here; their jobs are to make sure Caucasians are kept in check. I wonder how they'd have reacted if it was a gathering titled #stopblackpeople2k16? The supposedly bland content of the course wouldn't even be a part of the conversation. The people objecting to it wouldn't be referred to as uneducated. It's just more of that black privilege on display for all to see.

[SNSD]

"the society we function in" is their DORMATORY. The "course" is for Resident Advisors. I'm pretty sure it's outside the scope of their duties to force the people who live there to ascribe to their own personal politics by arguing race,diversity and privilege with them.

 

 

post edit-if they accepted a separate stipend for holding this session they should consider returning the money.

 

"Diversity Training" is pretty common in a lot of companies and government agencies these days to try to head off harassment complaints, etc. Whether BCV likes that or not, I am not arguing for or against it. However, I suspect that is how this discussion session for new RAs got started. The idea was probably to raise people's awareness that they would be in a dorm community with diverse ethnicity and cultures represented, and as student leaders (RAs) it is important to respect people's cultures and to head off or deal with any cultural issues or conflicts that might arise among students.

 

I have to infer these things, because what the three students in charge produced as a session description contains very little intelligible information whatsoever, compounded by some attempt at humor or hipness. However, that is my interpretation of what happened. Not that they were trying to encourage new RAs to argue or try to convert others to their own personal politics about race, diversity, or privilege per se.

 

And it was not a "course".

[SNSD]

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[Bluestar]

Sounds to me like BU, Student diversity specialists, RA's and everyone dropped the ball on this. This to me is nothing more than fuel added to a smoldering fire. You can't tell me that 50 RA's all together attended this and not a single one said, "Maybe we shouldn't name this seminar/meeting/class....whatever you wish to call it STOPWHITEPEOPLE2K16"....and these are "educated" people huh?

 

I'm sorry, maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy but this whole liberal bullshit movement makes me sick. From the flag burnings, the protest and violence against Police, and outright disrespect for anyone not coddling their views. What these little brats need is a good old fashion ass whopping from their "parents". Problem is their parents need the ass whooping too...

 

I'm now viewed as an uneducated white racist because I simply don't believe what these little pukey Liberals believe? Really? I thought part of being liberal meant accepting of other ideas and opinions. I guess the reality of that statement is that UNLESS you believe in their views and everything they stand for THEN your ok....otherwise your racist or whatever else their brilliant little minds can label you as....They should label themselves....HYPOCRITES fits pretty good.

 

I feel so sorry for the future generations that will have to deal with this generation of "entitled" babies carrying an elitist attitude simple because they have a MBA, PhD or whatever. I've worked with plenty of jerks like that....smart as a whip as long as it can be learned from a book or video. Common sense? NOT A EFFIN LICK.....SMH.....But yet we're the "uneducated" white trash that's just too racist or dumb to ever change so they have to speak down to us.....

 

BU's statement seemed no more than we had nothing to do with it, it's all the RA's fault and by the way.....you're still all uneducated and incapable of understanding what diversity is so we'll bombard your limited intelligence with big words to make ourselves feel good and try to make you feel bad....because after all, you are dumb, uneducated, privileged white trash.

 

BU=Bullshit University

[ginger]

I'm guessing the diversity training the resident advisors received was adequate. The panel "course" description states it's for advisors who want to" take the next step".

[GTO]

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/2016/08/25/stop-white-people-program-started-bu-students/89332838/

[SNSD]

I'm guessing the diversity training the resident advisors received was adequate. The panel "course" description states it's for advisors who want to" take the next step".

 

Well, in that case....

 

[Bluestar]

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/news/2016/08/25/stop-white-people-program-started-bu-students/89332838/

 

Can't figure out what's worse.....that garbage pressconnects.com or the "article". That slow loading over advertised "web site" is a joke.

[SNSD]

 

Can't figure out what's worse.....that garbage pressconnects.com or the "article". That slow loading over advertised "web site" is a joke.

 

We couldn't even read it because of the ad crap. That web site is almost worthless.

[SNSD]

I feel so sorry for the future generations that will have to deal with this generation of "entitled" babies carrying an elitist attitude simple because they have a MBA, PhD or whatever. I've worked with plenty of jerks like that....smart as a whip as long as it can be learned from a book or video. Common sense? NOT A EFFIN LICK.....SMH.....But yet we're the "uneducated" white trash that's just too racist or dumb to ever change so they have to speak down to us.....

 

BU's statement seemed no more than we had nothing to do with it, it's all the RA's fault and by the way.....you're still all uneducated and incapable of understanding what diversity is so we'll bombard your limited intelligence with big words to make ourselves feel good and try to make you feel bad....because after all, you are dumb, uneducated, privileged white trash.

 

BU=Bullshit University

 

Slow down, Bluestar. These were undergraduate RAs who wrote that session description, so I don't think anyone with a MBA or PhD is talking down to you as far as they are concerned.

 

Most BU undergrads are top notch with some of the highest SAT scores, high school GPAs, and accolades of undergrads at any state school in the country. That is a fact. Many BU students come here if they narrowly miss the cut off for schools like Columbia or Harvard. Parents from around the world (those who can afford it) are willing to pay top dollar to send their kids here, and whether you like it or not, they do if they are qualified to get in. There is a reason for that. So if you really think that BU=Bullshit University I am sure that you can find plenty of PhD's around this country and around the world who will disagree with you on that score.

[Bingoloid]

Slow down, Bluestar. These were undergraduate RAs who wrote that session description, so I don't think anyone with a MBA or PhD is talking down to you as far as they are concerned.

It's a stereotype that an undergrad takes a semester of introductory sociology/psychology/whatever and becomes unbearable because they just got their first dose of meaningful knowledge and assume they know all about the world now. Part of growing out of your teens, having more confidence than smarts or experience.

 

Which is why they're usually not given much responsibility without oversight.

 

People carrying on like this dumb title is the end of the world or it's somehow a big "gotcha" moment that they're going to use to force some kind of major change are arguably worse, though.

[The Wanker]

this whole thing was a total non-starter from the, uh, start.

[Bingoloid]

this whole thing was a total non-starter from the, uh, start.

I got curious and installed Yik Yak, a social media app popular with students.

 

The consensus seems to be that those three students are dumbasses who caused a bunch of trouble.

[SNSD]

I got curious and installed Yik Yak, a social media app popular with students.

 

The consensus seems to be that those three students are dumbasses who caused a bunch of trouble.

 

Still blindly following the MSM, we see.

[FormerSomeone]

"How do you respond to "good" arguments from uneducated people?"

 

If it is the truth it doesn't take an education to recognize. You should respond with: "I guess education just focuses me in one direction and may not necessarily be the path to enlightenment."

 

I'm a BU alumni. The degree helped but the education not so much; only the core management and math courses. The electives were garbage.. Too much nonsense and impractical academic proselytizing. A professor in a course titled "Men's Lives" I took as a humanities requirement had the gall to tell me some point I was making was "too esoteric". His whole career was esoteric.

[SNSD]

"How do you respond to "good" arguments from uneducated people?"

 

If it is the truth it doesn't take an education to recognize. You should respond with: "I guess education just focuses me in one direction and may not necessarily be the path to enlightenment."

 

I'm a BU alumni. The degree helped but the education not so much; only the core management and math courses. The electives were garbage.. Too much nonsense and impractical academic proselytizing. A professor in a course titled "Men's Lives" I took as a humanities requirement had the gall to tell me some point I was making was "too esoteric". His whole career was esoteric.

 

Have you attended other universities in order to compare? What electives do you think they force science or engineering or even management majors to take in other schools? The same ones!

 

This campus has traditionally been one of the two best research campuses in the SUNY system along with Stony Brook, and the improvements and expansions that they are making show that this state is set to make this the flagship campus of the SUNY system, where there has never really been one of those before except de facto.

 

If you got your degree here you are very bright, which we do not doubt in the least.

[FormerSomeone]

I don't know if my opinion has been peer reviewed as this is the first publication. You thing the "Stop White People" program is run by the Watson School or School of Mamagement? Bet not. This smacks of the Harpur "Arts" School.

 

I know SUNY B has great credentials as a research facility. I'm a local son and have endured the Binghamton economy all my life. Got into the School of Management on my own merits. No affirmative action, no help from my parents other than the appreciated room and board while I attended. There I was honored to have classmates sabotage my projects, steal reports off the printers, be non-participants in group assignments and show up expecting the credit once presented.

 

Just like in the real world. ;-)

[SNSD]

I don't know if my opinion has been peer reviewed as this is the first publication. You thing the "Stop White People" program is run by the Watson School or School of Mamagement? Bet not. This smacks of the Harpur "Arts" School.

 

I know SUNY B has great credentials as a research facility. I'm a local son and have endured the Binghamton economy all my life. Got into the School of Management on my own merits. No affirmative action, no help from my parents other than the appreciated room and board while I attended. There I was honored to have classmates sabotage my projects, steal reports off the printers, be non-participants in group assignments and show up expecting the credit once presented.

 

Just like in the real world. ;-)

 

What's your point? I know that you would not have gotten in to SUNY if you didn't deserve it, just as I stated earlier. There is no "stop white people" program that is run by any school within SUNY. It was a stupid orientation session for RAs, by RAs, and you know that. So stop being disingenuous, because I know that you are smarter than what you are saying in this post.

[FormerSomeone]

My point is we probably won't see a "Stop Semitic People" or "Stop Black People" seminar offering anytime soon; but "Stop White People" got by the campus sensors without a blink.

 

I guess I'm not so bright. Maybe if I had gone to a private school?

 

You can reminisce on my cancelled checks. I paid my tuition and the Alumni Fund can go fish. Besides, I was a "Colonial", not a "Wildcat". I wouldn't even pay the $60 to buy into Phi Beta Kappa. Awards aren't awards if you have to buy them.