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So I've been into it on twitter tonight. No surprise there. Here is the logic...

Apparently they equate protesting at Wegmans as an act of civil disobedience similar to the 4 men who refused to leave a white only lunch counter back in the 60's. 

Wegmans welcomes everyone to shop in their store. 

It's just really bad logic. I hope the judge explains the difference.

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So I've been into it on twitter tonight. No surprise there. Here is the logic...

Apparently they equate protesting at Wegmans as an act of civil disobedience similar to the 4 men who refused to leave a white only lunch counter back in the 60's. 

Wegmans welcomes everyone to shop in their store. 

It's just really bad logic. I hope the judge explains the difference.

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3 hours ago, ginger said:

So I've been into it on twitter tonight. No surprise there. Here is the logic...

Apparently they equate protesting at Wegmans as an act of civil disobedience similar to the 4 men who refused to leave a white only lunch counter back in the 60's. 

Wegmans welcomes everyone to shop in their store. 

It's just really bad logic. I hope the judge explains the difference.

There's know explaining the difference to the indifferent. 

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partial story:

“There is precedent for what is happening here,” said one protestor into a megaphone. “This community cares about Black folks but the people who shop here and the people who have access to this community are largely blind to what happens to us on the streets.”

Around 7:20 p.m., officers from the Johnson City, Binghamton, Endicott, Broome County Sheriff and State Police announced Wegmans requested the removal of the protesters. Law enforcement offered an alternative place to peacefully protest. When protesters did not leave, officers began to make arrests.

Protesters swore, said slurs and made obscene gestures toward police. Some chanted, “our streets” a phrase often used at demonstrations against police brutality. One protester was seen bleeding from their forehead; an officer helped administer an inhaler to them.

By 7:35 p.m., the scene de-escalated and according to police, Wegmans had closed its store. It normally closes at midnight. Police turned cars away at the entrance of the parking lot.

https://www.wbng.com/2023/02/02/protest-erupts-wegmans-response-tyre-nichols-death-binghamton-kneeling-incident/

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basically, it was private property - the management asked them to leave, asked the police to intervene and the police asked them to leave   no one left ... it was trespassing at that point ...  ultimately the store had to close...   trespassing with civil disobedience became uncivil the moment that people refused to leave the premises   that includes the reporter, that includes the ex mayor, that includes the ex deputy mayor       

those are the facts they are indisputable  

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2 hours ago, GTO said:

basically, it was private property - the management asked them to leave, asked the police to intervene and the police asked them to leave   no one left ... it was trespassing at that point ...  ultimately the store had to close...   trespassing with civil disobedience became uncivil the moment that people refused to leave the premises   that includes the reporter, that includes the ex mayor, that includes the ex deputy mayor       

those are the facts they are indisputable  

https://www.facebook.com/100021492451236/posts/pfbid02YQpvwAwBaCrBeSoV39Gsv1vTT2LyZZjAiW79eUPkhdfhfGXMVwmXT33bDq7yNjAnl/?mibextid=gkx3sN

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FROM JCPD:

The Johnson City Police Department responded to an illegal protest which occurred on private property owned by Wegmans at 7:00 PM Wednesday night on February 1st, 2023.  Approximately 50 people participated in the unlawful event.  
Before getting into further details of the incident, it is necessary to distinguish between lawful and unlawful protests.  The Johnson City Police Department strongly supports the 1st Amendment and the right of people to peacefully and lawfully protest.  Lawful protests can be held on some public property, or on private property with the consent of the property owner.  A protest becomes unlawful when it is held on privately owned property against the wishes of the property owner.
In the case of last night’s event, the organizers intentionally chose to gather on private property.  The property owners contacted the Johnson City Police for assistance, as they did not want the event to take place on their property, nor did they want any of the participants to remain on their property.  Wegmans employees first warned the participants that they were not welcome on the premises, and asked them to leave.  The employees’ requests were answered with shouted profanities.  Instead of complying with Wegman’s warning to leave the property, one organizer responded by announcing “If they want to have us arrested, then that’s fine” and further made it known that he intended for the participants to unlawfully enter the store.  This action required Wegmans to quickly close and lock the store to prevent the participants from entering in order to protect their property and safeguard customers inside.  Despite Wegman’s efforts to warn off the participants, the participants continued to remain unlawfully on the property and cause disruptions.  
After about 10 minutes of the participants trespassing and causing a disturbance, Wegmans requested that police tell the participants and all observers, including the press, to leave their property, as is their legal right as property owners.  Officers repeatedly and clearly advised the participants and the news media to vacate the premises, and that anyone not in compliance was guilty of trespass.  Officers offered up a public sidewalk immediately across the street from the Wegmans entrance where the group could peacefully and lawfully protest.  The order to leave and the offer to continue the protest on public property were met with more profane shouting and obscene gestures.  
After failing to disperse and leave, officers attempted to place several agitators in custody for trespass without using force.  The instant that officers attempt to place a subject in handcuffs, a mob of protestors rush in to interfere.  Some of the people grab the subject to pull them free from officers, some of the people push the officers back, and some employ violence and punch the officers.  One officer was punched in the face and sustained a laceration to his lip.  More officers move in to assist in removing people from the pile.
Throughout the chaotic scene, various groups of subjects repeatedly advance toward officers instead of following commands to back up and leave.  It is at this time an officer displays pepper spray and repeatedly issues warnings to the groups to back up or they will be sprayed.  The groups ignore repeated warnings and the officer releases a one second burst of pepper spray which was effective in moving the group it was aimed at.  The officer proceeded to issue the same warning to a second group of people immediately behind them who had ignored the previous warnings.  He then dispenses a second one-second burst of pepper spray towards that group.  
Included in that group was a reporter with the Press and Sun Bulletin, who provided a misleading video on their website, along with false statements in the news story.  Contrary to her statements in the article, body camera footage shows that she is not seen holding up her credentials, nor can she be heard identifying herself as the press.  Regardless of press credentials, she had been warned along with the others to leave the property.  Other news reporters from other media outlets complied and left the property while she chose to remain and trespass.  As she and the other reporters well know, freedom of the press does not allow them to trespass on private property.
Also, included in the list of those arrested was former Binghamton Mayor Matt Ryan.  Mr. Ryan was quoted on the news claiming that he was there shopping, and that he was just an observer and was not participating.  Video footage revealed that Mr. Ryan is lying, and that he never entered the store to shop.  He arrived with the protestors, and while he initially stayed back from the group, he was still advised multiple times to leave but refused to do so. Mr. Ryan is also seen in a video verbally engaged with another person and yelling profanities. As the chaos ensued, he approached closer and closer to the officers until they took him into custody.  He also erroneously stated that he was charged with resisting arrest.  He has not yet been processed for any charges, nor has he been issued any accusatory instruments.  He was simply taken into custody and issued an appearance ticket to appear in court at a later date.  In the confusion, an officer mistakenly wrote “trespassing” and “resisting arrest” on his ticket, however he in fact did not resist arrest.  The appropriate charges of trespass and obstructing governmental administration will likely be filed in the coming days.
It is clear that this event was not organized to be a peaceful, lawful protest from the very beginning.  Snapshots from the organizer’s social media accounts clearly demonstrate that this group was trained in tactics to resist lawful arrests, and to obstruct in the lawful arrest of other group members.  It is also clear that they intended for this to be a mass arrest scenario from the outset.
Video surveillance from inside of the store reveals that protestors entered the store prior to the start of the event to pretend they were shopping to avoid detection.  They also took shopping bags and distributed them amongst themselves so that they could claim to be shopping in a deceptive effort to avoid being told to leave.
To say that this incident is unfortunate is an understatement.  The fact is that not only does local law enforcement support the right to peaceful protest, but we stand with the protestors in their disgust and outrage over incidents like the killing of black men such as Tyre Nichols and George Floyd.  We are also relieved that arrests were made in both of those cases, and that there have been convictions and other convictions are being swiftly pursued.  That being said, the outrage of some cannot lead to lawlessness and the violating of other’s rights.  There are better and more productive ways to express your position on this topic, and this particular group did not choose them.
This group put the police in the impossible position between protecting a business’s legal property rights, and the group’s desire to express moral outrage.  They refused a legal and convenient alternative, and forced the police to take enforcement action that they did not want to take.
We will be releasing a more detailed summary of this incident supported by camera footage as soon as possible.  We wish to be truthful and transparent throughout the public’s review of this incident.
Subjects arrested include:
-Angela M. Kennedy-Richardson of Binghamton
-Nicole L. Baisley of Endicott
-Courtney E. Hollenbeck of Town of Maine
-Sarah Faber of Binghamton
-John Cook of Endicott
-Masai Andrews of Endicott
-Shanel A. Boyce of Binghamton
-Teresa Weathers of Binghamton
-Robert Wilson of Binghamton
-Matthew T. Ryan of Binghamton
-Samuel Whalen of Binghamton
-Marissa Robinson of Binghamton
-Carinne M. Vizvary of Binghamton
-Grace Widercrantz of Binghamton
-A 17 year old male
More charging information will be released as the incident is sorted out.  All subjects were quickly released from the police station in accordance with bail reform laws.

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2 hours ago, bballcoach said:

Video footage revealed that Mr. Ryan is lying, and that he never entered the store to shop.  He arrived with the protestors, and while he initially stayed back from the group, he was still advised multiple times to leave but refused to do so. Mr. Ryan is also seen in a video verbally engaged with another person and yelling profanities. As the chaos ensued, he approached closer and closer to the officers until they took him into custody.

So he was not shopping, he came with the protestors lol what a clown 

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On 2/2/2023 at 1:40 AM, ginger said:

So I've been into it on twitter tonight. No surprise there. Here is the logic...

Apparently they equate protesting at Wegmans as an act of civil disobedience similar to the 4 men who refused to leave a white only lunch counter back in the 60's. 

Wegmans welcomes everyone to shop in their store. 

It's just really bad logic. I hope the judge explains the difference.

This, this right here... 

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This, this right here... 

Well when you look at the account kindly provided by Bballcoach, they were pretending to shop in the store. They were trying to set up a scenario similar to that historical lunch counter incident but the logic just doesn't pass muster. I hope the judge can explain the nuance involved. 

 

Btw, bballcoach, thanks so much for posting that long account of the events.

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1 hour ago, Bingking said:

Jcpd released a body cam video and statement related to Matt Ryan specifically . The JC police department originally accused him of lying of not shopping at Wegmans and said they were wrong and he was shopping. That's not a good look JCPD

 

https://fb.watch/itcLdSQ6dl/?mibextid=gkx3sN

Oh, like he just happened to be there? 
 

I wish they hadn’t bothered retracting…probably didn’t want to deal with a nonsense lawsuit.

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13 minutes ago, 2pelo Honey said:

Just watched a few min of JCPD’s update on FB…w/ footage from body cams, and it disgusted me.

Only watched not even half of it, and refused to continue.

These ‘peaceful protester’s’ are nasty POS’s.

Hopefully, Wegmans bans some of these domestic terrorists.

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During a WNBF Radio interview Friday, Ryan - an attorney - said he had been called "to be a legal observer" of the protest. He said he had done some shopping in Wegmans before he "stood off to the side" next to a WSKG Public Radio reporter to watch what was going on.

Read More: Former Binghamton Mayor Discusses His Arrest at Wegmans Protest | https://wnbf.com/former-binghamton-mayor-arrest-wegmans-protest/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

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